Comment on We Should Immediately Nationalize SpaceX and Starlink

the_crotch@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  The author probably forgot who runs the nation.

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  • Gluca23@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    putin

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• eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Congress has always had this power. I’m personally for nationalizing telecomm companies.

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  • BugKilla@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Health; education; energy production; food production & distribution; water; housing; mass transit and telecommunications should all be classified as essential services and nationalised. Everything else can be whatever.

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  • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The problem would be that nationalising them in this day and age would mean prices would get even worse for everyone, as the government having a monopoly on these things would mean they can charge whatever they want.

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    • eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      As we all know, private corporations don’t charge whatever they want, and don’t jack up the prices because of a “Fuck you, why not?” fee and bill.

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      • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Did you stop reading after the first part of my sentence?

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• barneypiccolo@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  We no longer live in a world where our biggest fear would be the government controlling high level corporations and their operators.

  We now live in a world controlled by Sociopathic Oligarchs who can afford to create government level technology. Right now it’s mostly tourism rockets and satellites, but now we see Skum weaponizing that technology, and/or using it as a bargaining chip. He has cut off Starlink in a war zone to benefit the county who defers to him, but is openly hostile to the US, and now he’s threatening to cut off our access to the space station. He is using tech that WE PAY FOR with government contracts and grants, to pursue his own diplomacy, for his own benefit, and against our interests.

  Eventually, someone will start building and stockpiling actual weapons, perhaps even atomics. Then we will be asking why someone didn’t step in and stop them before they became a bonafide threat.

  We paid for Skum’s technology, and he gets to control it as a courtesy. Just the threat of using it against us should be enough reason to declare him a national security threat, confiscate his American-taxpayer financed businesses, and imprison him.

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  • the_crotch@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    We now live in a world controlled by Sociopathic Oligarchs who can afford to create government level technology.

    We have lived in that world for most/all of human history

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    • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      It’s hilarious seeing all these “anti oligarch” people come out of the woodwork now that it’s a catchphrase of their political party, despite that party being run by oligarchs.

      Like you said, this is how the world has been essentially forever. People are only against it now that their teams oligarchs are upset that they aren’t in as much control as usual.

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  • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Eventually, someone will start building and stockpiling actual weapons, perhaps even atomics. Then we will be asking why someone didn’t step in and stop them before they became a bonafide threat.

    Bruh this has happened over and over again. Nobody stops them because the most violence empire on the planet is leading the way. AFAIK the USA is the only state to have actually nuked people.

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    • barneypiccolo@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      First of all, America is not “the most violent empire on the planet.” America has the capability of being the most violent nation, but at the moment, our potential for violence is being eclipsed by other nations who are actively employing the same levels of violence that we are capable of. Nothing we are currently doing comes close to the violence that Russia and Israel are employing.

      And yes, America is the only nation to have deployed nuclear weapons against human targets, but that was 80 years ago, and ended the worst war in human history. After demonstrating its power, just the presence of nuclear weapons in a nation’s arsenal has been enough to keep the most powerful, well-armed, violent nations (including America) from going too far.

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• seejur@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  We are already fucked. The choices given are siding with Trump, and end up like Russia, or side with Elon, and end up like Cyberpunk 2077

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  • Disaster@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    …or organize, start/join unions, get involved with your local community and build up some real resistance that isn’t based off obscene wealth, lawfare or media brainwashing. Once you have experienced something real, it’s quite hard to understand how or why anyone would fall for the alternative.

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  • mycelium_underground@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Only useless people side with those two.

    Stop being useless.

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