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Comment on lemm.ee is shutting down at the end of this month

This is sort of unfortunate, but as long as the fediverse remains genuinely decentralized, I expect it’s just going to be a fact of life. Instances are goings to come and go, alternately riding in on waves of determination and enthusiasm and out in sluggish streams of burnout and ennui.

And in a way, I think it’s arguably even a good thing, or at least not a bad one. The basic structure of the fediverse prevents centralization through ownership, but there’s still a risk of individual instances gaining enough clout to effectively act as a centralizing force. Not that Lemm.ee was in that position or even headed that way, but still, broadly I think that the understanding that instances are likely ephemeral — that they come and they go, and much more to the point that that’s as it should be — is an important one.

And it neatly illustrates a large part of the reason that I have at least a dozen or so accounts scattered around the fediverse, including, for a little while longer, this one.

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nanook@friendica.eskimo.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
@WatDabney @FrostyTrichs I started my friendica instance after facebook banned me for pointing out issues with the Covid-19 vax, then I started my mastodon instance after twatter did the same prior to Elon's ownership. I've had some hardware issues along the way but we've got those straightened out. There seems to be the this false assumption on many peoples part that fediverse instances should be echo chambers like the old facebook and twitter were. I think it's healthy for opposing viewpoints to be expressed, but I believe it is unhealthy to allow to degrade to ad hominem attacks, I run my sites accordingly, others don't feel this way they prefer an echo chamber and there are instances that accommodate those folks well, and to me this is the beauty of the fediverse. I personally prefer long format posting because I don't believe short format provides the opportunity for the depth of discussion needed to explore opposing view, historical perspective, cause and effect elaboration, etc, which is, of my nodes I spend most of my time on friendica. Friendica is however not efficient, it takes a lot of hardware resources to run it efficiently.
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- Wiz@midwest.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  
  issues with the Covid-19 vax
  
  healthy for opposing viewpoints
  
  Vaccine skepticism is not a “healthy viewpoint”, but quite the opposite. Vaccines and inoculations are about as much “proven science” as we have, with hundreds of years behind the science. Spreading anti-vaxxer propaganda kills people.
  
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  - elephantium@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    
    “proven science”
    
    Vaccines are a good example here. Handwashing is another. We’ve had empirical proof on the latter since the 1850s, but it’s STILL super hit or miss whether people will bother :(
    
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  - Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    
    Spreading anti-vaxxer propaganda kills people.
    
    Antivaxxers are traitors to their species.
    
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- booly@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  
  I think it’s healthy for opposing viewpoints to be expressed
  
  Yeah, that way the community can get inoculated with these ideas and learns how to respond to them, and over enough time the response gets faster and more efficient so that the body as a whole builds up a resistance against whenever those types of comments show up.
  
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  - A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    This is why we don’t need vaccines.
    
    We just need gradual exposure to a lesser form of bullshit, so we can develop immunity to the greater whole of bullshit!
    
    /s
    
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- ayyy@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  If only you could dedicate as much effort into understanding basic science.
  
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- TachyonTele@piefed.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  This right here is why you should stay in school.
  
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- Ledericas@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  alot of people came here from the recent reddit ban waves, which correlated with the large jump in users on .ee, unfortunately, it also includes people that were banned for spreading rw propaganda, israeli talking points, general trolls. legitmate users were also part of those bans.
  
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  - nanook@friendica.eskimo.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    @Ledericas Unfortunately, this is often how it goes. The fact that I got some 30 or so dislikes and two SYN flood DoS attacks for simply offering my services I guess illustrates the make up of the crowd. Ah well, they will all relocate somewhere and life will go on.
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Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
It's important now that we don't all move to lemmy.world we want many smaller instances, not one really big one.

PS. Checkout PieFed, it's much more feature rich compared to lemmy, and has better mod tools.

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- Allero@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Piefed is very centralized as of now, and while it is small overall, we’ll see how it goes with the new instances.
  
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  - irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    How?
    We have multiple piefed instances and they all interact with lemmy.
    
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    Allero@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Last time I checked there were two, and realistically only piefed.social had any userbase. Is it not relevant anymore?
    
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Jayjader@jlai.lu ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
I suspect there is wisdom to be learned from forest management, specifically how regular, small controlled burns are how you avoid huge, unmanageable forest fires.

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