I keep hearing this, and I’ve been ready to fight back against them for decades, but I don’t ever see the revolution.
Unless you count occupy wallstreet, which lasted like 2 weeks, and nobody remembers.
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takeda@lemm.ee 5 days agoThey are also pushing the identity politics, so we are distracted fighting among ourselves instead of uniting against them
I keep hearing this, and I’ve been ready to fight back against them for decades, but I don’t ever see the revolution.
Unless you count occupy wallstreet, which lasted like 2 weeks, and nobody remembers.
People have been asleep and okay with fascism as long as they have money in their pocket. Now, this breach with ethical behavior in the name of corporate America on the part of so many has gone full circle. In other words, this is what you get when you value money over people.
peregrin5@lemm.ee 5 days ago
I mean it wouldn’t be a problem if people didn’t get angry about minorities having rights. So a large part of the problem is there truly are a lot of deplorable people who have some truly abhorrent views and the rich are taking advantage of that.
The reason the rich are pushing right-wing politics is that they know socially conservative people are ready to give the wealthy whatever they want so long as they can tread on the humanity of minorities. That’s really the only reason.
If the rich could get tax cuts from pushing for social rights for minorities they would do that instead, but social liberals are less gullible than the conservatives.
grrgyle@slrpnk.net 5 days ago
I wish the rich would take advantage of our more virtuous qualities. Like I would love for someone to back me financially to go around compulsively pulling up invasive plants and lobbing pollinator flower bombs into abandoned lots.
bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 5 days ago
They easily could push more socially positive virtues, but it’s likely more profitable to push a divisive narrative, especially as someone else said, to keep us occupied fighting amongst ourselves, as opposed to unifying against the wealthy.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 days ago
Mate, the basic principles of Equality and Fairness of the Leftwing naturally include minorities having the same rights and treatment than everybody else.
The artificial slicing of Equality into “one group at a time ‘Equality’” is exactly the strategy by which the Left was divided, distracted away from the biggest inequality and descrimination of all (that of Wealth) and made to fight each other and whatever rage-baite du jour served by the far-right populists to their muppets.
Whomever in some Neoliberal Billionaire-Funded Think Tank who came up with that perversion of Equality deserved whatever massive bonus they got for such a brilliant strategy of convincing people that are all being victims of the many that it’s people like them but of a different ethnicity/gender/sexual-orientation that are their real enemies.
You’ve been had and made into a footsoldier in a fabricated war were the working class got divided into “groups” by ethnicity, gender and even sexual-orientation and turned against each other whilst the people doing the most damage and causing the most suffering keep on pillaging to their heart’s contents and, worse, it’s been done via preying on your qualities as a human being who desires a fairer world.
peregrin5@lemm.ee 5 days ago
You make it sound like discrimination is something that only happened recently and that it’s some kind of conspiracy invented by the rich instead of something that has literally been around since the dawn of humanity. Hell it’s not even a trait unique to humanity.
Everyone being equal sounds great and all. Show me a left wing country that’s achieved it.
Pretending everything can be magically solved by wealth equality is pure class reductionism and this fantasy has never been borne out by reality. Different groups experience different forms of discrimination and each has different needs. Not to mention the “left” isn’t without it’s share of abhorrent views. Check out the recent posts of MeanwhileOnGrad to see transphobia and queerphobia from leftists you claim desire equality on full display.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 days ago
The transformation of Powerfull vs Powerless way of fighting inequality into a miriad of split identitarian fights which claim that people’s victims or aggressor status is wholly defned by the genetics they were born with (rather than, you know, actually being victimized or chosing to victimize others) which naturally ended up with the oppressed fighting amongst themselves as competing “identities” for the crumbs from the Powerful absolutelly is a modern phenomenon.
If you want to see the old style, just look at how traditional Unions still left in positions of relative strenght operate: they don’t fight for different salary and work condition improvements for people with different genders, skin colors or sexual orientation, the fight as all the workers vs the bosses.
Show me a country were Identity Politics has merelly just reduced Inequality (as defined by the Gini Coeficient) since it became fashionable (so, the last 3 decades).
From what I can see, the countries with the most and loudest Identity Politics are the ones going in the exact opposite direction - higher inequality, collapsing social mobility - like the UK and the US. It’s “curious” that after the powerless fighting as a group against the powerfull were fragmented into different “identities” based on their genetics, each fighting for their “own” group rather than all together, the powerful have managed to capture an ever increasing share of the wealth and the median quality of live has even started going down.
As for your quoting tankies as examples of “left”, well, tankies are fucking authoritarians, so if you’re expecting they’re following the actual principles of being Leftwing rather than mindlessly parroting some Soviet slogans or whatnot and thinking Stalin was a great man, you are seriously deluded or ill informed.
It’s funny that people like you defending Identity Politics have a view of what is Leftwing that is basically the Red Scare. You’re helping prove my point.