3600W is the maximum a power socket is rated for and the fuse triggers at 3800W. So, cutting it pretty close.
Comment on Prototype of RTX 5090 Appears With Four 16-Pin Power Connectors, Capable of Delivering 2,400W
FurryMemesAccount@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month agoIn Europe, this is no biggie
truthfultemporarily@feddit.org 1 month ago
lemmylommy@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I wouldn’t use that kind of power continuously. AFAIK the sockets are supposed to handle 16A for at least six hours, when they are new. When charging your car on Schuko sockets it’s good practice to limit it to 10A and check for the socket temperature after a while. Also, any connections in the cabling can have increased resistance with age and heat up with heavy continuous use. That shouldn’t matter that much when running a kettle or toaster for a few minutes, but charging a car or gaming for hours can become a problem.
ftbd@feddit.org 1 month ago
I think the typical limit is around 3600W, with 16A at 230V
Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 1 month ago
What about the rest of the computer though?
dabaldeagul@feddit.nl 1 month ago
3840W per breaker. Minus 2400 leaves 1440W, for a CPU, the minor components, and monitors/other equipment. In theory it could work.
Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 1 month ago
You would still need to run the computer off multiple plugs, as almost any 240v plug is 10a.
You’d likely need a dedicated breaker and plug, similar to a stove plug.
wewbull@feddit.uk 1 month ago
All UK plugs are 13A.
dabaldeagul@feddit.nl 1 month ago
Here, plugs are 230V and 16A = 3680W. Not quite as much as I thought (most extension cords seem to be rated for a bit more, which makes sense), but definitely enough to run monitors of the same breaker.
brot@feddit.org 1 month ago
Just imagine the costs of running such a system on European energy prices. We’re at ~0,35€/kWh here in Germany currently. That means that an hour of running this will cost you 0,84€. Add to that the energy use of the CPU, mainboard, Monitor and you’re paying well over 1€ per hour of gaming.
FurryMemesAccount@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
Judges you French 0.20€/kWh nuclear prices
If only you guys had listened to the science…
brot@feddit.org 1 month ago
Let’s not start a discussion about nuclear energy here. France has enormous subvention on electricity and Germany a lot of taxes. And both countries have issues in their energy system, so yeah
FurryMemesAccount@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
France has taken away electricity subventions a long time ago, they were temporary relief during COVID only.
In fact, there are pretty high taxes here too, just the base cost is lower.
And I started this debate to challenge the notion that all of Europe doesn’t have as unreasonable prices as Germany does.
Zeoic@lemmy.world 1 month ago
The nuclear and hydro over here in Canada puts us around 0.10€/kwh on average. Really wish processes for nuclear were streamlined decades ago, power would be even better now if it was
FurryMemesAccount@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
I’m a little jealous of you guys, but we have mostly maxed out our potential in Europe for hydro power already…
roofuskit@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Standard US outlets can’t deliver 3000 watts.
FurryMemesAccount@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
That’s why I started my sentence with “In Europe”
SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 1 month ago
But I live in America so naturally you’re referring to US outlets, right??
Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 1 month ago
roofuskit@lemmy.world 1 month ago
God forbid I supply information. I’m fucking done commenting with all you over sensitive weirdos who think everything is a fucking argument.
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
I’m gonna oneup those kettles with 7500W showerheads
AnAmericanPotato@programming.dev 1 month ago
Oh! I knew European outlets operated at higher voltage, but I didn’t know the standard circuits supported such high current. Jealous!
Ulrich@feddit.org 1 month ago
It’s the same current but double the voltage
CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 1 month ago
And wiring is typically rated for current limits not voltage (within reason). Some 12 gauge wire doesn’t care if you’re pushing 12V, 120V, or 240V but is only rated for 20A.
kn33@lemmy.world 1 month ago
The easiest way to think about it is that the conductor is rated for the current, and the insulator is rated for the voltage. Now, once you get into the nitty gritty, they’re more intertwined than that, but it’s close enough for a surface level explanation.
PetteriPano@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I live in a 50 year old house. All the breakers are 16A, so 220V x 16A = 3.5kW
The electric sauna does three-phase @ 400V. My energy tracker usually peaks around 9.5kW when it’s heating.
RejZoR@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
Most are actually 230V which is even more at standard 16A, 3680W to be precise.
Countries that use 110V have so many weird limitations that we don’t even know in Europe. For them, 230V is the “special” outlet for special purposes.
InverseParallax@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Actually, in the US the outlets are often wired with 1 leg, while giving 2 legs gets you back to 240v.
110 is probably better in terms of general safety (which is good because our houses are death traps), but it means when you do need power you need a special circuit.
We should have both more common, but the plugs are terrible (basically they turn the left prong 90 deg).
TWeaK@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Nominally EU voltage is 230V, and may be 240V. In fact, it can be as high as 230V +10% = 253V.
If your sauna is 400V then it sounds like you’ll be 230V (400V / sqrt(3) = 230). But the voltage can also be 230V -6% = 216V, so 220V is within scope.
But yeah, standard voltages in the EU are either 230V/400V or 240V/415V. They’ve been harmogenised, but if you look at the numbers you’ll see the trick - 230V +10% is roughly the same as 240V +6%. So the range is 230V-6% and 240V+6%.
You’ve got a 3 phase connection though so you might find you’ve got different single phase breakers on different phases (eg lights on one phase, sockets on another), with slightly different voltages for each one.