He didn’t use FSD because he was on a track and FSD requires a destination. It was using Autopilot, according to his statement. Are you suggesting that Autopilot is inherently less safe than FSD? I’m confused about your position on this.
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FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 week agoRober got absolutely destroyed, and rightly so, for that BS video and “test”. He didn’t even use FSD - he just drove straight into the fake wall and then claimed FSD did it.
poopkins@lemmy.world 1 week ago
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 week ago
He claimed in the video he was using FSD. We saw FSD engaged for a brief second before disengaging (from what looked like him either turning the wheel or accelerating, or possibly because he activated it 2 seconds before he was about to manually drive through a wall and it realized it as soon as he turned it on).
FSD doesn’t require a destination btw.
poopkins@lemmy.world 1 week ago
I genuinely don’t understand what FSD has to do with any of it. My car’s front collision sensor works regardless of whether cruise control is enabled.
If I’m understanding your argument correctly, the driver needs to enable a setting first for a Tesla not to plow directly into a wall? I would say that makes it less safe.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 week ago
Mark Rober drove a Tesla manually into the fake wall that he made specifically so he could promote his friends LiDAR company. He lied and said he had FSD enabled, then changed his story to say only autopilot was on when called out on his lies.
What car do you have? Are you saying that just in normal everyday manual driving your car would stop your car automatically from 60mph and not hit a wall because of a collision sensor? Collision sensors are for slow moving things that are like 1m in front/behind you.
I’m saying Rober lied, intentionally and deceptively so. FSD has everything to do with it because he said FSD drove him into the wall, but it wasn’t even enabled - he manually drove straight through the wall.
xthexder@l.sw0.com 1 week ago
FSD wouldn’t have done any better, it can’t even figure out shadows on the road properly as seen in this crash 3 days ago:
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 week ago
That guy is lying through his teeth lol.
- The crash happened in February, within 2 weeks of him buying the car. He never thought to bring it up with Tesla until just now, apparently. Try and make that make sense.
- There’s no proof that he was using FSD, and that this wasn’t driver error. He has posted footage of every camera except for the interior camera which would show if he was driving or not. I wonder why?
- He claims that he had a version of FSD that wasn’t released to the public at the time.
- Tesla have a program you can download to get all your telemetry data, showing exactly when FSD is enabled and disabled. He never tried to get that.
- Again - he never even contacted Tesla to ask them to investigate.
xthexder@l.sw0.com 1 week ago
Did you watch the video? There’s no way that it was just “user error”, nobody randomly swerves into a tree when nothing’s there. Maybe you’re implying it was insurance fraud?
Tesla gives out beta access to users, so I wouldn’t put too much weight on that claimed version they were using.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 week ago
Did you watch the video? There’s no way that it was just “user error”, nobody randomly swerves into a tree when nothing’s there.
You’re assuming that he was paying attention and driving normally. He could have dozed off and pulled the wheel.
All I’m asking for is evidence to support his claim other than “trust me bro”.
Tesla gives out beta access to users, so I wouldn’t put too much weight on that claimed version they were using.
As others have pointed out, that version wasn’t out to regular people on that day.
anomnom@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
It switched autopilot off when the parking sensors (ultrasonic/radar range finder with a very narrow range) detected the wall.
If Tesla isn’t doing that to hide deficiencies from NHTSA investigations, I’ll eat my shoe.
Also FSD is an app running on the same hardware and camera systems as autopilot, what would make it better at “seeing” through mist or a reasonable facsimile of the road up ahead?
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 week ago
No it didn’t switch it off because of that.
FSD and autopilot do different things using the same data. It’s fact that they behave differently.
anomnom@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
From NHTSA IN 2022:
“The agency’s analysis of these sixteen subject first responder and road maintenance vehicle crashes indicated that Forward Collision Warnings (FCW) activated in the majority of incidents immediately prior to impact and that subsequent Automatic Emergency Braking (AEB) intervened in approximately half of the collisions. On average in these crashes, Autopilot aborted vehicle control less than one second prior to the first impact,” the report reads.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 week ago
So they tried to hide it from them by explicitly logging when it switched on and off in the days that they report to them? Huh?
A7thStone@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Is the taste of shoe leather getting any better?
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 week ago
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A7thStone@lemmy.world 1 week ago
I’m not kink shaming, but do you have a humiliation fetish? Everywhere you comment you get dragged, and yet you are one of the most prolific commentators on this site.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 week ago
“you get dragged” lol
People slinging personal insults doesn’t bother me. It amuses me tbh because they get so riled up and make up all these imaginary things in their mind - like what you just did.
People who are wrong, or who don’t understand what they’re talking about, trying to correct me isn’t getting “dragged”. Just because other people in the circle jerk agree with them doesn’t mean they’re right.
I don’t care what any of you think btw. It doesn’t affect me, I don’t pay it a second thought. I could have had a dozen conversations with you and I wouldn’t even recognise your username because it means nothing to me.
But keep trying, whatever makes you feel big on the internet :)
Nythos@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
Fuck me man over 800 comments in less than a month?
Just put the phone down and go get some air
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 week ago
I work on a computer 8-10 hours a day. I can multitask very well. 800 comments in a month, most which take like 10 seconds to type and hit post, is not some insanely difficult challenge.
How about instead of trying to shame people - while posting on the same site nonetheless lol - you try and post something on topic or productive? Or maybe use that time for something better?