Comment on Can Tesla's Self-Driving Software Handle Bus-Only Lanes? Not Reliably, No.

NotAGamer@lemmy.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Rober got absolutely destroyed, and rightly so, for that BS video and “test”. He didn’t even use FSD - he just drove straight into the fake wall and then claimed FSD did it.

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  • A7thStone@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Is the taste of shoe leather getting any better?

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    • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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      • A7thStone@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’m not kink shaming, but do you have a humiliation fetish? Everywhere you comment you get dragged, and yet you are one of the most prolific commentators on this site.

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      • Nythos@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Fuck me man over 800 comments in less than a month?

        Just put the phone down and go get some air

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  • poopkins@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    He didn’t use FSD because he was on a track and FSD requires a destination. It was using Autopilot, according to his statement. Are you suggesting that Autopilot is inherently less safe than FSD? I’m confused about your position on this.

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    • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      He claimed in the video he was using FSD. We saw FSD engaged for a brief second before disengaging (from what looked like him either turning the wheel or accelerating, or possibly because he activated it 2 seconds before he was about to manually drive through a wall and it realized it as soon as he turned it on).

      FSD doesn’t require a destination btw.

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      • poopkins@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I genuinely don’t understand what FSD has to do with any of it. My car’s front collision sensor works regardless of whether cruise control is enabled.

        If I’m understanding your argument correctly, the driver needs to enable a setting first for a Tesla not to plow directly into a wall? I would say that makes it less safe.

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  • xthexder@l.sw0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    FSD wouldn’t have done any better, it can’t even figure out shadows on the road properly as seen in this crash 3 days ago:

    fuelarc.com/…/tesla-full-self-driving-veers-off-r…

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    • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That guy is lying through his teeth lol.

      1. The crash happened in February, within 2 weeks of him buying the car. He never thought to bring it up with Tesla until just now, apparently. Try and make that make sense.
      2. There’s no proof that he was using FSD, and that this wasn’t driver error. He has posted footage of every camera except for the interior camera which would show if he was driving or not. I wonder why?
      3. He claims that he had a version of FSD that wasn’t released to the public at the time.
      4. Tesla have a program you can download to get all your telemetry data, showing exactly when FSD is enabled and disabled. He never tried to get that.
      5. Again - he never even contacted Tesla to ask them to investigate.

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      • xthexder@l.sw0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Did you watch the video? There’s no way that it was just “user error”, nobody randomly swerves into a tree when nothing’s there. Maybe you’re implying it was insurance fraud?

        Tesla gives out beta access to users, so I wouldn’t put too much weight on that claimed version they were using.

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  • anomnom@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It switched autopilot off when the parking sensors (ultrasonic/radar range finder with a very narrow range) detected the wall.

    If Tesla isn’t doing that to hide deficiencies from NHTSA investigations, I’ll eat my shoe.

    Also FSD is an app running on the same hardware and camera systems as autopilot, what would make it better at “seeing” through mist or a reasonable facsimile of the road up ahead?

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    • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      No it didn’t switch it off because of that.

      FSD and autopilot do different things using the same data. It’s fact that they behave differently.

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      • anomnom@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        From NHTSA IN 2022:

        “The agency’s analysis of these sixteen subject first responder and road maintenance vehicle crashes indicated that Forward Collision Warnings (FCW) activated in the majority of incidents immediately prior to impact and that subsequent Automatic Emergency Braking (AEB) intervened in approximately half of the collisions. On average in these crashes, Autopilot aborted vehicle control less than one second prior to the first impact,” the report reads.

        —static.nhtsa.gov/odi/inv/…/INOA-EA22002-3184.PDF

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