This 100%.
The education system was not OK, and has not been for a while. Its main goal is limiting liability, not educating kids.
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astro_ray@piefed.social 1 day ago
TBH, I'd AI can screw up the education system so fast then it is the fault in the education system. AI is bad, but our education system is not good either.
hansolo@lemm.ee 1 day ago
Placebonickname@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I will take limiting liability and running with it. Not just the schools, but the kids and parents too no one wants to be responsible and step up to fix the problem.
FoxyFerengi@lemm.ee 1 day ago
One of my professors had an AI policy. Using AI for an outline or to find resources was okay, as long as it was cited with the exact prompt used. I think having rules for how to use AI on her assignments actually cut down on use compared to professors who outright banned it.
spamfajitas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Sounds kinda similar to how Wikipedia was approached by instructors. I remember an English teacher proudly proclaiming she had participated in a “Kill Wikipedia” seminar at a convention. Just a few years later, they’re instructing students on how to properly use Wikipedia as a starting point and not a primary source.
Eggyhead@lemmings.world 1 day ago
I’m literally teaching a course to teachers on how to use AI in the classroom so that the students don’t use it as their magical answer dispenser.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 day ago
What are the headline recommendations?
Eggyhead@lemmings.world 21 hours ago
I had the class build a database of ideas, but one I really liked went like this:
You put a bunch of quiz questions into an AI song generator. The students listen to the song and try to provide the answers afterward.
You can make it really stupid and funny if you want.
Another would be to have AI produce a “podcast” about some topic, maybe Elvis interviewing Churchill about who Darwin was. Tell it to use some key points you want the students to take note of, then let them hear it and talk about it afterward.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
Sounds like very inventive ways to include AI in teaching and make it fun and interactive.
How are you modifying what you teach? Wikipedia reduced the focus on learning facts, what does AI remove from the syllabus? What areas should be strengthened to leverage AI?
givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 day ago
No Child Left Behind has fucked us for over 20 years…
People are blaming these college kids, but their entire k-12 was under No Child, they were never taught critical thinking, what the fuck are they supposed to do? No one ever taught these kids to think for themselves.
We failed an entire generation, and it’s too late to fix it for them now, the best we can do is fix it for the kids that will start public education in a few years.
But we’ll be paying the price for decades
danc4498@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Like all things republican, you ruin the public service, then tell everybody we need to get rid of this public service cause only the free market can provide that service in good quality.
Vouchers will save us our children!
vinnymac@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It’s simply easier to exert control over society through private corporations than in the light of day with public goods and services. Especially when what you desire is of minority opinion.
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 day ago
You are mixing up transparency and legality with the private\public category. When one side of this category is more popular, the other side is often described as the solution to the problems with the former two. But there’s no causation.
taladar@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
I would go further back than that. Our entire education system has failed to adapt to the fact that rote memorization is not the most important form of learning and that any question that could be answered in a multiple choice manner is not really worth asking to verify if someone understood the taught material.
We have an education system that has failed to adapt to the easy availability of references which should have resulted in a focus on teaching a “skeleton” of knowledge to students since the exact details can always be looked up as long as you know the information exists and how to interpret it (e.g. you don’t need to memorize which element carbon is and how much it weighs, you need to understand what an element is and what important properties of chemical elements are).
We have an education system that failed to adapt to the availability of video recording which would have meant it would be easy to have every student understanding the same language watch the most engaging individuals instead of the average ones, presenting the content in a way designed by entire teams of top teachers, falling back on the average ones only for the interactive parts of education.
We have an education system that still struggles with the teacher for a subject as a single source of failure, both in terms of absence and in terms of that teacher not being very compatible in their explanations with the way specific students think instead of having some kind of online forum or matching of teacher to student for one on one questions in a more flexible manner.
We have an education system that still rigidly adheres to categories like physics, chemistry, mathematics, languages, history, geography,… designed in the 19th century for its degrees even though many jobs require more flexible mixes of knowledge and many also require learning for the entire life, not just at the start.
Students today learn for exams a few days before they happen, then purge that knowledge again a few days or hours afterwards.
There are many, many things wrong with our education system and we failed to even acknowledge that there are possible alternatives.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 day ago
On the other hand, people don’t realize how far we’ve come especially for rural areas.
I got an uncle still alive and kicking whose school had to combine grades because there were so few kids.
So for the bulk of his public education it was just him and another girl like 2 years younger than him. That was the whole class, and it was literally a one room school. Not “one classroom” it was a one room log cabin with an outhouse. One single teacher “teaching” literally everything to 1st graders and the rare person who stayed till 12th at the same time.
Oregon Trail generation really looks more like the exception than the rule every year. It seemed like a terrible education at the time, but we’re sandwiched between complete farces of an education system.
pennomi@lemmy.world 1 day ago
2 person classes would be a dream compared to the overburdened 30+ person classes of today. You get half of a private tutor? Hell yeah.
dustyData@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The only point I will disagree on it’s about video. Today’s teaching actually over relies on video media precisely under the hypothesis you suggested. Unfortunately modern science knows that showing and telling is the lowest and most primitive form of learning. Effective learning happens when the student starts using the knowledge in interaction with others. For example practicing using said knowledge to solve problems and later teaching others about the topic. The old medical adage has been proven to be true: show, do, teach. Video is less effective at knowledge transfer than reading and for the worse, reading proficiency is at an all time low. Precisely because of pedagogic inertia in adapting evidence based strategies and depending on tradition based strategies.
Zexks@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
The same argument could be made of every point in their post. But you’re missing the main point. You’re seeking perfection and ignoring progress in the search of.
taladar@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Well, video of an actual good teacher is still better than having to passively listen to a bad one in front of you though. I agree that something more interactive and involving the students more actively would probably be even better though.
Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 1 day ago
You nailed it.
LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
It’s ok, they dismantled the department of education. Surely the states can figure it out!
looks over at Oklahoma
…fuck