Comment on 3D printing for beginners

• JustEnoughDucks@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This hasn’t really been true since the MK3. Even then, I have a MK3 and besides recalibration between filament changes, I have not had to tinker with it almost at all.

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  • ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The Core One line seems to require a lot of fiddling and the auto calibration features are far from consistent it seems.

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    • JustEnoughDucks@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Personally I would say that is preferable to my house burning down like with Bambus 😉

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    • cheesemoo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Mine has just worked perfectly from day one. Just one anecdote, but I’ve been super impressed with it.

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  • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    [This is a typical Prusa experience and why I stopped buying them.] (youtu.be/fbQjWMXGZ4k)

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    • waz@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That is a filament problem from voxel labs filament basically, and because Thomas is doing a sponsored bit for them, the Prusa is getting the blame.

      look for anything from Canuck creator recently, he mixes different filaments on Indx equipped prusas and has no issues.

      So maybe in future Prusa will make filament profiles that work for INDX.

      I’ve got a core one L that I will upgrade in the near future and out of the box it was super easy to get started, first thing I did was some brackets in overture PETG, faultless.

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      • ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        That’s bullshit. Its not properly engineered if you can’t use whatever filament you want. If it’s a temp thing for that specific filament, it’s a Prusa issue because they’re not using filament specs you’ve entered in the slicer in their calibration process. Hard coding temps for anything is lazy and bad practice these days since it’s variables that are ready straight from the slicer.

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  • HelloRoot@lemy.lol ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Watch the video: Prusa Core One INDX by Made with Layers

    (sorry can’t link cause I have kbit internet right now and yt refuses to load on that speed)

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• trailee@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’ve been incredibly impressed and pleased with my Prusa Core One, as a beginner, over the past several months. Assembled myself (I’m a beginner to 3d printing and modeling but not to technical topics) both for cost savings and to have a deeper understanding of how to take out apart if something goes wrong, but it’s been rock solid so far. I was happy to pay the cost premium over Bambu to be on the moral high ground with ethical corporate behavior and production.

  YMMV, but I was blown away by how good it was out of the box. I pressed play and it just worked, even with what I thought were ridiculous overhang angles without supports.

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  • ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They’re selling pro-sumer priced printers, but both the MK4S and the Core One had issues that simply should not happen. Things that let customers paying a premium price be beta testers for the next properly made versions of the printer. They do make good printers worth the price…eventually…but only after they’ve released and sold a half-baked version. And this is my gripe with Prusa.

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    • trailee@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Sounds like your advice to OP should be to avoid the bleeding edge Prusa stuff (like INDX), but that it’s reasonable to expect to be pleased with well-baked revisions. Another way to look at that is that they’re more than happy to support hardware for a while after release, with additional improvements. My take is that’s extremely positive, but you’re entitled to your opinion.

      I haven’t gotten the Gen 2 upgrade kit yet for my Core One+ but I’m excited about the idea that they’ve reduced bed warping and therefore eliminated the vast majority of the Absorbing Heat step before the flatness check at the start of prints. A gen 2 out of the box sounds delightful.

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      • ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I find it strange that people pit so much effort in to mental gymnastics to try and justify to themselves why it’s OK that their potentially almost €3000 machine (Core One+ L INDX) doesn’t work 100% out of the box without upgrades down the line to fix design issues. It’s not OK to sell products that don’t work properly right away (regardless of the company), especially so in that price range. Don’t sell it until it actually works 100%, it’s a really simple concept.

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• Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Nonsense.

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  • ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    No go check the billion issues people are having with the auto-calibration features on their printers, especially on the Core ONE printers. They require a lot of fiddling.

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    • Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Now go check Bambu ignoring their printers catching fire.

      Any 3D printer can (or rather will) eventually require manual intervention and maintenance, companies trying to sell you otherwise are liars or design garbage not meant to work longer than 2-3 years at all. Sure some people get lucky and don’t have to do anything in the first two years, meanwhile others run into something immediately. That’s just how it is.

      But other than with a bloody Bambu, on a Prusa you CAN fix basically everything and there are actual manuals how to do so. Bambus meanwhile are not built to be taken apart and full of proprietary parts, aside from specific things that’d fail way too often.

      To say Prusas require “a lot” of fiddling compared to Bambu is just a load of bullshit. They’re just not marketing the printers as aggressively and are open about how to do stuff, making it look differently.

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      • ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        But at least they cost a fraction. You can’t (or at least shouldn’t) sell a premium priced product with underwhelming performance.

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      • natebluehooves@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        this deflection derailed the conversation.

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    • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      New INDX system has issues.

      youtu.be/fbQjWMXGZ4k

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