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Comment on Apple executives ban Fortnight from the App store

People buying Apple products want to be told by Apple what’s allowed. The walled garden is core to Apple’s product philosophy. It’s not like everybody was expecting Apple to be super open and inclusive with anything and then be taken by surprise from the Fortnite situation. Even before they deprecated open standards because their own tech is supposedly evolving faster and are better integrated.

People wanting to play Fortnite on phones can just get a reasonably specced Android phone and install EGS next to Play Store with just a few taps.

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theherk@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

People buying Apple products want to be told by Apple what’s allowed.

I get that this crowd generally thinks Apple is hellspawn, in spite of also having devices made by other, also shitty corporations, but this is just a dumb thing to say. They’re just devices. Yes some of us prefer them. I didn’t switch after every mainline Android phone from G1 through Nexus and Pixel because I wanted a paternal imposition of allowed apps. Stupid fucking comment.

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- woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  Stupid fucking comment.
  
  I was merely stating in simple words what Apple’s product is and that their customers respond to exactly that. You choice of words shows that a loud fraction of their user base is a cult, though.
  
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  - theherk@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    What are you on about? What you said simply is not true. At least, I’ve not once heard an Apple user state they wanted to be told what they were allowed to use. You either believe that, which would be stupid, or you don’t which would be disingenuous. You pick.
    
    It may be a scumbag company, or its users a cult, but that doesn’t stop what you said from being stupid.
    
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    Alaik@lemmy.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I’ve yet to hear anyone in republican cities say they want a king, yet they keep on voting for it.
    
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- 0xD@infosec.pub ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  No, apple is a piece of shit for not allowing you to flash whatever firmware you want on there. It makes my job harder and no one wants to do ios pentesting because of that.
  
  I hope that apple burns to hell.
  
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  - theherk@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I don’t disagree with any of that. I only take issue with the quoted statement.
    
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CriticalMiss@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Eh, not really. I buy Apple because I’ve had 3 Android phones crap out on me literally days after their warranty died. I got tired of that shit, I paid a bit more and got myself an iPhone 13. It still works as good as it did on the first day. While I do know that Apple devices have a set death day (when they stop getting security updates), I believe I generate far less e-waste by buying 1 iPhone every 7 or 8 years instead of buying a brand new Android every year.

As far as Fortnite goes, I don’t care for the game itself, but I am happy that they fought Apple in court and gave developers the freedom to implement third party IAP, albeit I have no use for it as I only use my phone for phone calls and messaging and the occasional web browsing.

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- emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  I only use my phone for phone calls and messaging and the occasional web browsing.
  
  Why not use a feature phone, then? Cheaper, more repairable, and the Nokia ones will also last longer.
  
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- funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I had a MacBook, while I was typing on it, suddenly just turn off, never to be turned on again. Took it to the store, they told me it was cheaper to buy a new one.
  
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  - sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I had a similar experience and this is what made me switch away from Apple computers.
    
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- echodot@feddit.uk ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  What a disingenuous arguement.
  
  You said you paid more for an iPhone, which means you were buying cheap Android phones and then complaining that they don’t last. Well yeah, because they’re cheap.
  
  You can buy Android phones that make iPhones look like the budget option if you want to, I’m not advising it but it’s possible.
  
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  - CriticalMiss@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    It was one S21, S22 and a Pixel 5 or 6. I didn’t overpay for the mux delux version, just the basic one.
    
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  - mrvictory1@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I’d say even cheap Androids can last long: Samsung A series receive 4 OS updates and after updates are over, you can get a few more years with last supported OS until battery or app compatibility becomes a problem.
    
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  - FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Not necessarily. iPhones used to be more than pretty much every Android flagship phone.
    
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- bork@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  buying a brand new android every year
  
  We’ve had wildly different experiences with these companies, for what it’s worth.
  
  I bought an iPhone X back when they were new, and had to get it replaced twice within the first 6 months because of hardware failures.
  
  Conversely, I kept my Pixel 3 (from 2019) until last year.
  
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  - FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    That’s how stuff works. Different people have different experiences. I had to get my pixel 3 replaced twice under warranty for a known screen issue. The pixel 7a, believe it is, is currently in the middle of a mass battery failure issue that really should end in a recall, where they’re refunding people often more than they even paid for the phone when it happens. Every flagship pixel up until the 5 had major hardware issues.
    
    iPhones have, historically, been the best phones you could get in terms of being built to last, which is also why Apple have such long software support for them.
    
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- Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Android is an operating system. It has nothing to do with crappy hardware.
  
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  - narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I think iPhones have one of the best iFixit repairability scores among popular smartphones. The current iPhone 16 Pro scores 7/10, while the Pixel 9 Pro and S25 Ultra only achieve 5/10. Parts - first or third party - are broadly available.
    
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    Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Those scores are simply nonsense and do not account for the parts pairing bullshit. They gave them 7s a couple years ago, then dropped to 5 after public outcry, then just went back to 7s again with no explanation.
    
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- NotKyloRen@lemmy.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Which Android phones did you have?
  
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  - CriticalMiss@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    S21, S22 and a Pixel 5 or 6. The latter was the one to break the camel’s break.
    
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  - _____@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Predicting a classic tale of comparing apple flagships to $150 android phones.
    
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