Comment on Nearly 5 years in, PS5 sales remain neck-and-neck with PS4 | VGC

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• Oneser@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  System based exclusives meaning you might not be able to play a game you want to in the future, expensive subscriptiona needed to play online, push to digital DRM controlled games… it’s almost like consoles killed themselves?

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  • fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Well the alternative is PC gaming, and building a competitive PC aint cheap. I remember on launch people were building computers with similar performance to the xbone/ps4. But now that entry level dGPUs aren’t a thing, and even mid range GPUs are expensive you get fucked either way.

    The PS5 is at least powerful on launch. The 4 was on par with like a regular APU.

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    • sparky1337@ttrpg.network ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      It used to be easy to build a PC that was double the performance of a console for the same price. And it was even easier if you sourced slightly used current hardware. Now you’re lucky to get last gen hardware for a decent price used. The market is garbage.

      Back in 2014 you could get brand new motherboards for ~$50, where it’s difficult to find any under $150 that provide decent features. I think the most expensive thing at the time was NAND due to flooded factories but everything else was super cheap.

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    • frezik@midwest.social ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      If you’re not too stuck on modern AAA titles, PC gaming is cheap. Possibly the cost of the electricity coming out of the wall.

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    • LandedGentry@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      You know, I just finished building my machine the other day. And yeah it wasn’t cheap, but if you’re willing to forgo Nvidia… It’s actually a lot more affordable than you think. The new AMD’s smoke too.

      $1700 all in. 9800x3d, 9070, aorus b650 board, 32gb ram, 2TB SSD, 850w be quiet PSU, a case that’s a bit too big with lots of airflow and built in fans. If I had gone with a 7xxx cpu and shaved other parts down i could’ve easily gotten it down to $1400. Less if I went with a previous gen GPU.

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      • VirgilMastercard@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Personal anecdote. My PC cost me £900 in 2017. I haven’t upgraded it since. I have saved a significant amount of money in that time that would otherwise have been spent on PlayStation Plus for the benefit of playing multiplayer and the general higher price of games.

        Even if you accept the argument that consoles are significantly cheaper in the first place, the point that PC ownership saves money in the long run is often overlooked.

        I’ve never owned as many games for as little cost as I do now.

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      • Carnelian@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        A certified refurbished ps5 can be had right at this moment for $399, $450 new. I game on PC for many other reasons but the performance for value is pretty amazing on the ps5

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    • endeavor@sopuli.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Mini pcs are a thing and they get better every year.

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    • ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I think more and more people have done the math on what your break-even is with a PC up front compared to noncompetitive digital console storefronts, needless forced obsolescence, and subscription fees.

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    • Damage@feddit.it ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Building a PC that can compete with current console IS cheap

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      • endeavor@sopuli.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Entry can exceed the cost of the console but if you upgrade your existing one, especially using used gpus it is dirt cheap.

        Now factor in:

        • pc games online stores are cheaper, there are more opportunities for good deals. Usually 5-10 eur off a game.
        • you are not an idiot who pays for the internet twice, 80 eur a year. -pc game stores have better deals as console ones usually refuse to let the price down for a looong time since they have no competition
        • you are sonys bitch by owning a ps5 and you are not elegible for any refunds. Saving you tons of money since every pc game store lets you refund for any reason within a time window.

        and even a pc double the cost of a ps5 will be cheaper very quickly.

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  • SolidShake@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I haven’t payed to play online in years. Like mid PS4 life. Online only games don’t require a subscription.

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• endeavor@sopuli.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Its not ps5, its ps4 pro pro. They’re the same console and Im tired of pretending otherwise.

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  • ThunderComplex@lemmy.today ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This implies the PS5 pro is the PS4 pro pro pro

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• match@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Switch ate them all while being 2 generations behind

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  • ICastFist@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    After Nintendo saw how much the Wii succeeded while effectively being a gamecube with motion controls and a DVD drive vs. two “top tier titans”, they never bothered again with being at the forefront of tech, which possibly felt like a homecoming, considering the Famicom was kinda underpowered at release, but cheap to produce.

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• LandedGentry@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  The PS5 thus far has been mainly a final fantasy machine if you ask me. Half the games people play are remasters (or just the straight up original launch version) of PS4 games. It’s coasting heavily on that catalog.

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  • LiveLM@lemmy.zip ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Man, imagine if the PS6 launches and it’s just PS4 & 5 ports and “”“upgrades”“” all over again

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• DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  This is going to piss off some people, but I knew this generation was in trouble when HellDivers became big.

  That game isn’t hot garbage, per se, but the fact that it got the success it did is a pretty damning indictment of the state of multiplayer shooters.

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