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• agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’m pretty sure the whole thing is a false flag/astroturf to discredit sincere leftist discourse. It seems a lot like a blend of bad leftist parody, and edgy 14-year-olds who fell for it

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  • mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Sounds like r/chapotraphouse in a nutshell.

    Also, I think TheDude was underselling why they were originally banned on Reddit. They were the left-wing version of r/TheDonald. The reason he listed was just the excuse Reddit used to justify kicking them off the platform

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    • iie@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      what the fuck does that even mean, “left wing version of /r/TheDonald”

      like the donald but believing the exact opposite things?

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      • mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        like the donald but believing the exact opposite things?

        Yes. I don’t get how you’re confused by that

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  • brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This comment is the most “reddit liberal seeing real difference of opinion for the first time” thing I have ever seen.

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    • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’m a leftist (not a liberal, actually leftist). It’s not a difference in opinion, it’s a presentation so outrageously bad it can’t be in good faith. It’s a middle-school mockery of communists, it just makes us look ridiculous to the people we should be engaging with sincerely.

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    • Pandemanium@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Why is it hard to believe or understand that this, right here and now on lemmy, really is most westerners’ first time interacting with actual communists? A lot of us dems are pretty open minded and a lot of us want the US to move toward socialism. But most of our exposure to communism has just been “communism bad.” So of course we don’t understand the fuller spectrum of leftism, because our fascist conservative party has forced everything so far to the right, and our education system is abysmal.

      Then we come here and see a bunch of “stupid libs” memes, which from the outside we can’t understand because we identify as liberals (leftists). You folks give off the same vibe of how our fascist conservatives treat us (own the libs, kill a dem to save America, etc), and I think thats why people assume or equate you with Nazis. We’ve never met real communists, and a lot of stuff on the internet is fake. It’s entirely understandable.

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    • Croquette@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This is the most “American that doesn’t understand the liberal is only considered left in the US” comment I have ever seen

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  • MonkCanatella@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This exactly. I swear the entire point is to discredit and divide. The FBI couldn’t do a better job if they tried

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    • imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I mistakenly assumed that they would be more similar to chapotraphouse, but now I see that the 3 year exile has stripped away many of the reasonable people. I still hope that some of these users will snap out of it and realize they are acting obnoxiously and unproductively, but the chances of that happening seem slim at this point.

      CTH was aggressively leftist but it was actually funny and self aware. Hexbear seems to have forgotten how to interact with ordinary people.

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      • MonkCanatella@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I mean, I like aggressively leftist and most of lemmy that I’ve experienced feels that way. This hexbear shit feels like anti-leftist agitation though. It fucking stinks of feds. If not at the beginning, they’re certainly there now

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    • GarbageShoot@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      and basically dismissing anything to do with race.

      Show me

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      • MonkCanatella@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        This is the exact type of thing I’m talking about. If you’re not a fed you’re doing terrific for them for free

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    • PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I don’t know, I’ve actually met people in real life who were sort of like that. It was really toned down compared to what you would read online but it was still there.

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  • somename@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Thinking people who disagree with you politically are bots or paid posters isn’t a healthy mindset to have.

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    • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I think they’re boots because I nearly exactly agree with them politically. They’re almost exactly my beliefs, but with the most annoying, self-righteous, groupthink presentation possible. That’s why I think they’re a false flag smear campaign to discredit actual leftists.

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      • somename@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I don’t think you’re actually a communist. Not a real one at least.

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      • Clever_Clover@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Hexbears should be sent to the gulag for being cringe

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      • Annakah69@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I doubt we agree of much. You reek of anarcho-natoism.

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      • GarbageShoot@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Consider the self-flattery of assuming a community that existed in isolation for three years just to eventually make you look bad when they became federated again.

        Maybe there is a real disagreement instead?

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  • sharedburdens@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’m literally in an org irl

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    • mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Then don’t come here? You don’t have to browse by ‘All’ you know

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      • sharedburdens@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I like to also be able to see lemmygrad

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  • 1nt3rd1m3nt10n4l@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    No. I had an account when the instance was first set up, but I got banned for getting into an argument with a power-user. I wouldn’t say it’s always been like this, but this is definitely what it’s like normally.

    We mutated out of a band of subreddit refugees from r/ChapoTrapHouse, but I feel like the current community doesn’t fully live up to what it used to be.

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    • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I think it was, by its nature, susceptible to compromise as described above, witch has been capitalized upon. Whatever it was, or pretends to be, has pretty clearly been manipulated into a deliberately obnoxious parody that, functionally, obstructs left unity and overwhelmingly benefits neolibs.

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      • brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Or, maybe, people just hold different beliefs to you.

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  • TawnyFroggy@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    lol.

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  • liquidparasyte@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Oh, I literally just had a comment on my thoughts on it. Here is it pasted, since I don’t want direct linking to it. TLDR it’s probably majority those 14 year olds, not a false flag.

    I don’t think they are pretending to be those things. They truly believe themselves and their interpretation of Marxism, Marxism-Leninism, communism and socialist projects to be true and just.

    The only issue is that they come from a specific strain of western leftist that got into the “uwu dank Soviet club” meme of the mid-10s and never evolved past that understanding of the people, projects, policies and states they stan like a fandom. They could take some lessons from the anarchists tbqh, but they’d rather post PPB and “liberals get the wall”. Very annoying.

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• iie@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  hexbears are abrasive because experience has taught us to expect 90% of liberals to respond in bad faith, to not listen to us and to dismiss us as bots or paid propagandists or stupid, evil sycophants with no moral compass or justifications for anything we believe and no sincere interest in improving the world, and to tune out when we attempt to argue otherwise.

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  • MrMonkey@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    go the fuck back to hexbear. Your instance sucks so hard you went and created another account on another instance to get around defederation. Fuck you.

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