Comment on French culture

NONE_dc@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  English is fucked up in large part due to being corrupted by the French cancer. If anything we are one of the most qualified to talk shit about them.

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• shneancy@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  English might be a bit- creative with the spellings of words but at least they pronounce most of the letters, not just half of them

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  • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Oh. Yeah. Right. Sure. Let’s say that.

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  • Soup@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    French does pronounce most of the letters, they just tend to drop the last one. Then there’s our “though” which is often shortened to “tho” with no consequence. English is not creative, either, most of the time the words were actually pronounced in a way that matches and time changed how we spoke them. That and we just kinda lifted the spelling of loan words but said them differently because whichever of our many accents at the time made it otherwise uncomfortable to say.

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    • obviouspornalt@lemmynsfw.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The letter ‘h’ just entered the chat.

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      • Soup@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        In French? Yea, it’s there it’s just called, some of the time anyway, an aspirated H. It’s also pretty rare and I’d be willing to bet that that is due to loan words.

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    • bob_lemon@feddit.org ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      English needs a major spelling reform, but there’s no way to actually implement one. In order to match spelling to pronunciation, you would be to have a well-defined “high English” pronunciation.

      But any semblance of uniform pronunciation doesn’t even exist within the UK (or even just England), much less across the entire English-speaking world, including places like Canada, Kenya, Nigeria, Australia, New Zealand, India, and many, many more countries.

      And even if you somehow manage to create something (this is basically how “high German” was created, after all), good luck getting all the different governments to adopt the reformed spelling.

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      • shneancy@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        also good luck basically upheaving the entire ESL world by making all the texbooks obsolete. would be pretty wild

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  • dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    But the pronunciations are different word by word. French letter combos make the same sound even if they are not each pronounced the American away, which is nice as a French novice.

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  • NONE_dc@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    most of the letters

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    (and why the fuck Mike and Nike aren’t pronounced similarly?)

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    • Skullgrid@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Mike and Nike are pronounced similarly

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    • Adiemus@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      A better example might be “home” and “some”, where only one letter is different, but the pronounciation is completely different. There are many words like these. English doesn’t make sense at all.

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    • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They are…it’s a regional thing

      See here m.youtube.com/watch?v=Lkg5nLOgxII

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    • partial_accumen@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      (and why the fuck Mike and Nike aren’t pronounced similarly?)

      Well “Mike” is a typical appreciation of the name Micheal of Hebrew origin that long predates the English language. “Nike” is Ancient Greek, which also predates the English Language. Nike is the name of the Greek god of victory. So neither one of those is English.

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      • Rubanski@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It’s like how you pronounce Hercules and molecules the same way

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      • NONE_dc@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        But why is pronounced “Nai-ki” and not “Ny-ke”? We here don’t give a fuck a say “Nike” like Mike.

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    • rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      literally a french word

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