Comment on Tesla Slumps Below 50% Share of California's Electric Car Market

Matt3999@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• jonne@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  BYDs are everywhere now in Australia. Not sure what alternative brands are available in the US, is it just Rivian?

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  • adavis@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    And other Chinese brands!. The MG4 is super popular in Australia too. Can get it for about $38k AUD ($25k USD).

    Even if Tesla wasn’t tarnished by association with Musk, they have absolutely nothing at the budget end of the market. ie for buyers that traditionally bought corollas, little Mazdas and Hyundai’s.

    And BYD has the whole range, if I want a luxury sedan the BYD Seal goes toe to toe with the model 3.

    I think China is going to eat everyone’s lunch here in the same way Japan did in the 70s/80s, and Korea went in even cheaper in the 90s and 00s (how many Hyundai Excels/Accents were there in Australia in late 90s early 00s).

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  • jqubed@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    On the more affordable end around here I see a lot of electric cars from Ford, Chevrolet, Kia, and Hyundai around here, and to a lesser extent Volkswagen. On the high end it’s mostly Mercedes-Benz and BMW, sometimes Porsche. Once in a while I’ll see Rivian but they don’t have a dealership in our state. Even more rarely I’ll see Polestar, which does have a dealership in a city at the other end of the state, and at least one person here has a Lucid Air.

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    • hddsx@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Polestar is Chinese

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    • GoatTnder@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Depends on where you are in California I guess. I see more Rivians here than Cybertrucks.

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  • ripcord@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Are you asking if Rivian is the only company besides Tesla selling electric cars in the US?

    No, nearly all major manufacturers sell EVs. Something like 25 brands.

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  • GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I believe there was a 100% tariff in place pre-Trump meltdown on Chinese EVs in the U.S, making them less viable in that market. The EU also tariffs them heavily, which is quite a pity.

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    • ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      The EU also tariffs them heavily

      Yes, to tip the scales back towards fair competition pricing by offsetting the subsidies the Chinese brands are getting from their government. It doesn’t fully offset it though, they’re still quite a lot cheaper than e.g. VW BEVs

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      • elucubra@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        And chinese EVs are still competitive in the EU. Tafiffs are effective, and can be positive, to prevent dumping and stuff, just not across the board.

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  • ouRKaoS@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Rivian & the 2 or 3 models the big manufacturers have. I see way more hybrids than full electrics in my area.

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  • Ledericas@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    rivian isnt even that widespread , and they are still testing some models.

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  • Oni_eyes@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Ford has at least one now, I think VW does as well

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    • jqubed@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Ford has 3, the F-150 Lightning and the unfortunately named Mustang Mach-E, and the E-Transit van I think is primarily for commercial customers.

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      • Ledericas@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        the mercedes one is i used by amazon delivery.

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