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jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 4 days agoPeople are emotional. They feel things, and then make up justifications for it afterwards. We all do this to some extent, in some contexts or others, but some people seem to do it the majority of the time.
Someone who smokes and has a choice between admitting they fucked up, they’re hurting themselves and those around them, OR denying it so they’re just a persecuted innocent? A lot of people will go for the latter. It’s weakness and cowardice, but saying that won’t change their mind. If results are wanted we have to do the very arduous task of massaging their emotions and I kind of resent that thankless, endless, work. Even though I almost certainly am the same way about other things.
Humans are a mess.
thejoker954@lemmy.world 4 days ago
As a former smoker (now vaper) I understand and agree with non smokers about smoking inside.
However the people who bitch about smokers outside in public piss me off.
Yes my cigarette (now vape) is soooooo much worse than the exhaust of the thousands of cars /generators/construction equipment and so on that are constantly running all around us.
But out of sight out of mind. They can’t see all that exhaust shit so it doesn’t exist - But those fucking smokers how dare they.
jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 4 days ago
I also get mad at people who drive cars instead of walking or taking mass transit, if that helps.
But someone smoking near you makes your day undeniably, immediately, worse.
If you’re sitting in a room that smells uncomfortably of cheese, and someone rips a juicy fart on your face, it would be unreasonable to be like “who cares about my shart it smells like cheese in here”
andros_rex@lemmy.world 4 days ago
The problem is that nicotine itself isn’t a carcinogen, but increases the effectiveness of other carcinogens. So like, the nic is going to make that car exhaust/etc more harmful.
JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 4 days ago
I don’t breath in exhaust either, fully concentrated. I have as much of a problem with diffused cigarette smoke as diffused exhaust, but I fucking hate smokers that make me breath in their second hand fully potent, carcinogenic, horrible smelling smoke.
Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days ago
I haven’t seen any car exhausts walking right next to me on the sidewalk though.
scintilla@lemm.ee 3 days ago
I have asthma and when I walk past a smoker it makes it harder for me to breathe for a while afterwards. I don’t have the same issue with vapes though so I don’t really care about those even inside of they smell nice.
SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 days ago
Some of us do struggle to breathe around vapes though. Not as bad as cigarettes but it’s still a problem
scintilla@lemm.ee 3 days ago
Looked it up and I had no idea how bad second hand vapor can be. I don’t vape or smoke but I’ll give them both the same level of stink eye going forward.
slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 3 days ago
I just find it kida gross to inhale something that already was in someone elses lung. It doesn’t matter if it smells like cotton candy. It’s pointless and stupid
slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 3 days ago
I stop bitching about smokers when they manage to not throw their garbage everywhere.
And yes i know, of course you are the one smoker that has a pocket ashtray.
thejoker954@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Lol, I actually did when I smoked cigs. I can’t stand littering.
I also manage to return my cart even in shitty weather ;)