Comment on [Question] What just happened to 4 million posts?

sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• flamingos@feddit.uk ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  But zip has < 50K posts.

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  • SquiffSquiff@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Maybe they unzipped the archive? /S

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  • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    ¯_(:-)_/¯

    I don’t know exactly how that post counter … actually, technically counts posts, but:

    1:

    Zip going down could have uncounted all posts anywhere made by zip accounts.

    2:

    There could have been some kind of… propogating post count negation effect, as various other instances reacted differently to zip users posts on their instances could not pull them anymore, on different time scales.

    3: If a zip user had a … top level comment, on another instance, its possible all lower level comments responding to that comment may also have poofed out of existence, in some respect.

    I may be using some terminology here, and this is just spitballing, but yeah.

    Almost all of my .zip account’s posts… are not on zip itself, and its possible that that is fairly common amongst .zip users.

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    • flamingos@feddit.uk ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      i apparently cannot figure out ascii shrugs, nvm

      ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯ => ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

      Just so we’re clear, what this crawler does is go through all servers that use ActivityPub known to it, and congregate that data to a list of known services (Lemmy, Mastodon, Piefed etc.). How is does that is by querying a standardised end point to get the instance info (.well-known/nodeinfo which will then point to a different path to get the actual info).

      For instance, here’s what it will collect for feddit.uk:

      nodeinfo json

      json // curl -s https://feddit.uk/nodeinfo/2.1 | jq { “version”: “2.1”, “software”: { “name”: “lemmy”, “version”: “0.19.10-feddit”, “repository”: “https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy”, “homepage”: “https://join-lemmy.org/” }, “protocols”: [ “activitypub” ], “usage”: { “users”: { “total”: 4184, “activeHalfyear”: 718, “activeMonth”: 485 }, “localPosts”: 25750, “localComments”: 122835 }, “openRegistrations”: true, “services”: { “inbound”: [], “outbound”: [] }, “metadata”: {} }

      The important stat here is the localPosts, which is all the posts made by local users in any community, local or remote. It does not include posts by users from remote instances made in local communities. You can also see this data on the instance sidebar in lemmy-ui.

      lemmy.zip going down will only reduce aggregated stats for total posts by 47,280, as that’s what they report for their localPosts.

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      • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Huh.

        Well, I appreciate the info and shrugging magic, but uh… hrm.

        I dunno then.

        ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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      • ICastFist@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Do comments count as posts? Because losing all comments from an instance would probably explain such a huge dip

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• tisktisk@piefed.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Is divide by zero becoming the most based instance? How did a single bro make best lemmy?!?

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  • Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    It’s a pretty cool instance. The governance is transparent with a nuanced voting system, the rules and policies are indeed based, and db0 takes decentralization so seriously that he’s apparently working on safeguarding the instance against his own influence with the governance system and admin recall votes and such.

    Thanks db0 et al!

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    • tisktisk@piefed.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      That's the most based thing I've heard all year--where can I learn more about this decentralization endeavor?

      That's it--I'm making an account now. This comment sealed the deal

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      • Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        More details in the announcement post: “Adding two new admins and introducing radical recalls”

        He instituted a pretty nuanced voting system for the community to decide on instance policies, federation decisions, even a process for instantly recalling admins like himself. He acknowledges that as server owner there is only so much that can be done to limit his power, but he appears to walk the walk. Cool stuff.

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      • grue@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Db0 is super into decentralization! Everybody should make their account there!

        …wait.

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      • Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Welcome!

        !div0_governance@lemmy.dbzer0.com should be it

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  • CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I’d say dbzer0 is probably the most leftist, at least from what I’ve seen. I personally don’t go as far as being an anarchist but can appreciate the philosophy. I probably have more in common with anarchy than democratic/plurality governance, if I’m being honest with myself.

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    • fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Wait… dbzer0 is “divide by zero”?

      I’ve been reading it as “dibzer nought”

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      • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        If I were to pronounce it outloud, I would say:

        D. B. Zero.

        Like D. B. Cooper, lol.

        the… zero, 0 swap is… basically old school l33tsp34k

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    • moakley@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Lately I’ve been seeing a lot of comments coming from that instance that are indistinguishable from the ones I see from .ml.

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      • IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        There are secret tankies. But instance admins do not like tankies.

        If they start denying/downplaying Tiananmen Massacre, they will get banned.

        dbzer0 is just very anti imperialism of all types, USA, Russia, China, is all bad.

        The admin db0 does have a distrust in democracy and the electoral process abd they have a “don’t vote in elections” stance which I have voiced my disagreement with, and I have not been banned.

        I’ve citicized USA, Russia, China and not been banned. db0 seems to be sympathetic to Ukraine in the Russo-Ukrainian war.

        TLDR: dbzer0 are not tankies

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  • OpenStars@piefed.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Bc he's just that chill, obviously! 😁

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• Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Hm, could be indeed

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  • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    lemmy.zip/post/35999238

    Here’s the post.

    Evidently, Demigodrick has since fixed the problems and successfully upgraded to 0.19.11

    lemmy.zip/post/36177918

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