Just your garden variety bigots and assholes then?
Also, I think you should read up on what facisim is and why it’s being so widely used right now as highly oppressive rhetoric is being pushed from many far-right leaders throughout the world.
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cotlovan@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
As i signed up for this sub, I thought I’d be reading about technology. Actually, it seems that people here are more concerned about companies not sticking to the far left ideology, so naturally they call everyone nazis and fascists, without ever knowing what those words even mean.
Just because someone doesn’t want to play the gender tip toe dance, doesn’t mean they’re nazis. But I guess that’s not something that this sub is ready to face.
odelik@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
cotlovan@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
I know exactly what fascism means, and often what the left is doing aligns better with the definition than what the right is doing. Also, let’s not forget that “nazi” is a short form for “national socialism”
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’m with you on the “they’re not Nazi thing”
I think a Lemmy is being a version targeted radicalization for certain groups.
But still I think you’re wrong that we can separate technology from this political stuff right now. It’s not separate. Technology is the medium that groups are using to spread this stuff. It’s important and interesting to see how they’re doing it.
Content should focus on the tech side of it. And also why be angry at the side that’s just trying to protect their freedoms here. If it wasn’t for the people trying to limit their freedoms, we’d never hear of this stuff.
cotlovan@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Sure, you can’t always separate the technology from the politics, my issue was that this is what most posts around here are about. I took a look and most content comes a few accounts, and it’s always about the “nazi this” and “fascist that”. Is that really only thing that happens in the tech space, what Musk said and what YouTube changed in their policy?
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Most of the top feed I see is against AI
redwattlebird@lemmings.world 3 weeks ago
Hang on. I just scrolled down the comments list for a couple of minutes and didn’t see anyone calling anyone else a Nazi or a fascist. What are you going on about?
And YouTube is a company. They don’t believe in anything except increasing shareholder value. It’s got nothing about far left or whatever. Gender identity isn’t even a far left idea, unless your Overton window is skewed.
Also, you’ve just sort of outed yourself unnecessarily as an ignorant bigot in a left leaning community with your statement:
Just because someone doesn’t want to play the gender tip toe dance, doesn’t mean they’re nazis
Of course they’re not Nazis. No one’s calling them a Nazi. They’re calling that someone a bigot.
Actually, it seems that people here are more concerned about companies not sticking to the far left ideology
Actually, it’s people who are concerned about companies kowtowing to a fascist regime, the Trump government.
wolfinthewoods@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
nazis and fascists, without ever knowing what those words even mean
I am Jack’s complete lack of self awareness
UltraMasculine@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
Seems like you are getting downvoted, but I agree with you that nowadays people use words like nazi and fascist very loosely. I’m very sure that a large part of the people can’t tell what nazi or fascist really is without looking it on Wikipedia.
suite403@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Seeing as you apparently need someone to look the word up for you.
Fascism : a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual, that is associated with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition
Let’s see.
- Christian nationalism is a huge part of Trumps support group
- Cops target brown people to attempt to deport them and Trump pardons them for ignoring court orders to stop (Joe Apaio)
- Trump continues to deport people based on skin and looks without due process. Ignoring courts telling him to stop.
- Trumps America first slogan is eerily similar to Hitlers slogan.
- Trump is starting to isolate the US from the rest of the world (but curiously not Russia)
But I do agree, they’re not Nazis, they’re MAGA. Their own brand of fascism.
eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Womp womp, get bent and bootlick your Trump in hopes he might acknodlge you for his next grift.
LMurch@thelemmy.club 3 weeks ago
Thanks?
VerticaGG@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
get fucked bigot
cotlovan@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Your reply and your up votes just prove what I said. You’re not allowed to disagree with the rhetoric around here.
wolfinthewoods@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Sure, if your issue is that it’s okay for corporations to remove protections for hate speech towards marginalized groups, then yes, go get bent. This kind of false equivalence between normalizing hate and ostraciszing progressives for speaking out against oppression is EXACTLY what we’re fighting against. What in the hell ‘rhetoric’ do you disagree with? Have empathy for lgbtq+ people? Jesus. If so, this is definitely not the place for you.
cotlovan@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Speaking about false equivalence, how did you came to the conclusion that just because I don’t find a corporation removing gender stuff from their policies relevant from a technological stand point - makes me an LGBT hater? You seem to already have made your mind, you probably did assume that I’m a trump supporter who wanna see gays being hanged, even though I was saying that I expected more tech and less gender politics from this sub.
There are a lot of subs dedicated to LGBT, I came here for tech. Which sub would in your opinion be more appropriate for tech talk if not this one?
redwattlebird@lemmings.world 3 weeks ago
No, you’re definitely allowed. Otherwise you’d have had your comments removed from the public discourse.
The up and downs just gauge public approval to the comment. Remember, you’re also free to up and down vote to voice your disagreement.
Also remember, if you think everyone around you are assholes then likely you’re the asshole.
suite403@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
You are welcome to disagree and people are welcome to tell you off. That’s how speech works. Or should we tip to around disagreeing with you?
cotlovan@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Of course everyone is allowed to speak their mind. But being called names for not supporting a particular point of view sounds like hate speech to me, wouldn’t you agree?