Comment on GenAI website goes dark after explicit fakes exposed

• Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Ai can combine two things. It can train on completely normal pictures of children, and it can train on completely normal porn, and then it can put those together.

  This is the same reason it can do something like Godzilla with Sailor Moon’s hair, not because it trained on images of Godzilla with Sailor Moon’s hair, but because it can combine those two separate things.

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  • reseller_pledge609@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Fair enough. I still think it shouldn’t be allowed though.

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    • figjam@midwest.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Why? Not pressing but just curious what the logic is

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  • RightEdofer@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Only the real things are actual humans who have likely not consented to ever being in this database at all let alone having parts of their likeness being used for this horrific shit. There is no moral argument for this garbage:

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    • jaschen@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Technically speaking, if you post images of your child on social media, you have consented. If you never uploaded an image of your child online, you never need to worry.

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      • RightEdofer@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Social media has been around a long time. It is not reasonable to expect people to think of technology they can’t imagine even existing ten years in the future when “consenting” to use a platform. Legally you are correct. Morally this is obviously terrible. Everything about how terms and conditions are communicated is designed to take advantage of people who won’t or are unable to parse its meaning. Consent needs to be informed.

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• Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I wouldn’t think it needs to have child porn in the training data to be able to generate it. It has porn as the data, it knows what kids look like, merge the two. I think that works for anything AI knows about, make this resemble this.

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  • reseller_pledge609@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    That’s fair, but I still think it shouldn’t be accepted or allowed.

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    • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      It seems pretty understandable that companies wouldn’t allow it, it’s more that if it is illegal (like in some places) then that gets into really sketchy territory imo.

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    • jaschen@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I agree it shouldn’t be accepted, but I disagree on being allowed. I think it should be allowed because it doesn’t hurt anyone.

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• MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  It has to be trained on SOMETHING.

  Old cp?

  needs to be stopped before it slips and gets worse because people “get used to” it.

  Ah, right, almost finally forgot the killer games rhetoric.

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  • reseller_pledge609@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I also don’t agree with the killer games thing, but humans are very adaptable as a species.

    Normally that’s a good thing, but in a case like this exposure to something shocking or upsetting can make it less shocking or upsetting over time (obviously not in every case). So, if AI is being used for something like this and being reported on isn’t it possible that people might slowly get desensitized to it over time?

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    • MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      But what if confirmed pedophiles are less likely to commit a crime if they have access to respective porn? Even better then, if it can be AI generated, no?

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      • jaschen@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Japan is country that has legal drawn cp. It’s available in physical store and online. Yet Japan is much lower than most developed country in the world in terms of actual sexual child abuse.

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