Comment on YSK that a new internet/account bypass during Windows 11 installs already exists. Here is a 7 step guide.

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• Nelots@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  They have been suffering for years and never thought once about alternatives like Ubuntu

  The average user is pretty unaffected by windows’ enshitification. And if it doesn’t fuck over their daily life, most people are more than happy to keep using the thing they’re familiar with. Especially when switching would require not only learning one new thing, but a large number of new things. For example, do you use paint.net? Sucks to suck, time to find a Linux alternative and learn how to use it and hope it can do everything you need it for.

  Linux fanatics like to pretend its as simple as installing a different OS and that’s it, everything else in your workflow will work immediately with no research needed. But that’s simply not true.

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  • drkt_@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    … everything else in your workflow will work immediately with no research needed.

    I’ll put it simply for you: You can spend a few hours figuring out a new workflow, or you can spend the rest of your life fighting a losing battle against a megacorporation that has it out for you that will also randomly upend on your workflow.

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    • Nelots@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Im not saying sticking with windows is the better option. Im just saying people should stop acting like it’s a one and done switch with no extra effort needed.

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      • drkt_@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Nothing in life takes no effort. I’m only advocating on the basis that Windows has become more of an effort to stick with than Linux has become to learn.

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  • heavydust@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The average user is pretty unaffected

    The average user complains about Windows all the time around me and I have to fix their crap constantly. It is fucking over their daily life, either by preventing them from working or by swallowing their files into a black hole. Windows users at work don’t care about it, but around me when it’s their personal computer, it’s a disaster.

    switching would require not only learning one new thing, but a large number of new things

    Any Ubuntu from 10 years ago is identical to the latest Windows. It’s laziness, fear, or being hostage, but it’s certainly not learning something new. Also, Windows 11 is completely different from the previous versions and it didn’t seem to bother them.

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• nicerdicer@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I can relate. It is like those tool bars that were installed automatically if you weren’t attentive while installing software when Windows XP still was around.

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  They like to suffer, I let them.

  Me too. I always suggest to them to install UBlock origin (or any ad blocker compatible to their browser), along with add ons that get rid of cookie consent banners. If they follow my advice, I will invest my time into helping them to make their OS a little bit less annoying (e.g. switching off telemetry data and uninstalling Copilot). If they can’t be bothered with at least installing an ad blocker, I will not waste my time on them. They clearly want to suffer.

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• m4m4m4m4@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  My parents are almost completely technological-illiterate (i.e. due to old age my father doesn’t even have a cellphone nor knows how to use it, and my mother barely can know how to do calls in her phone - both of them don’t know how to use a computer) but they know they don’t know about stuff - so hearing stories like that kind of make me be thankful they’re like that and that they will hear me when needing some advice or need to do something involving something tech-y

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  • utopiah@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    thankful they’re like that

    Yep, being humble is THE key to learning. If people assume they know, they discard advice from people who actually invested time to learn about a topic… then they end up in a terrible place due to them cherishing their own ignorance. Very sad but also quite common.

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