Comment on Israel publicly announces genocidal intent

• toofpic@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Uh…I’m sorry to tell you, but republicans and Trump won. Everything that is happening right now is happening under republican rule. Sitting in your own piss abd blaming others don’t work anymore!

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  • geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Do you realize that Gaza has been completely flattened under Kamala Harris? Agent Orange is now bombing the ruins of Genocide Joe.

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    • GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Do you realize that Gaza has been completely flattened under Kamala Harris?

      I think you’ve got your flashcards mixed up, comrade. You meant “Genocide Joe.”

      Words are hard, especially English with all the “yours” and “theres” but keep trying!

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      • GreyAlien@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        So the mask comes off. Rather than encouraging the exchange of ideas with people who make the effort of using a language other than their own, you resort to insults…. pathetic.

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    • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Huh. Didn’t realize Harris got elected. Someone should tell orangeboi.

      Seriously dude: your first sentence is fully nonsense.

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    • 5in1k@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yes, the vice president controls the military. For sure, the military of another country. The tie vote for the senate, yeah ok.

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      • geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Where was the Palestinian on stage at the DNC?

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    • toofpic@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      When was that “under Kamala”? Is it in this room with us right now?

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      • geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I might have bad news for you

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    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Kamala would be doing the exact same thing as Donald Trump.

      Uh huh.

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      • UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Is building a golf course your red, but not genocide?

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      • meowMix2525@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Donald Trump says a lot of things. What he did was get them two months of relative peace. That would not have happened under Kamala, there would be no intermission to “resume” bombing from, there would just still be bombing. If Kamala wanted those voters then she should have broke from Biden’s support of Israel, which she did not do and is not how you get a ceasefire done with Israel. No, what she said is that we would have the “most lethal military” in the face of Palestinians her campaign blocked from speaking at the DNC.

        That is how democracy works, “vote for me or else” is not a fucking popular platform for what should be very obvious reasons. Is it really more important to you to attack these voters and hold back the discourse, over 4 months after the election, as your government is breaking every rule in the book and your party is playing right along with it? The election result is not going to change no matter how many people you throw under the bus for it. These are the cards you were dealt, it’s time to move on and play spades.

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    • Muaddib@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Spare us your piffle.

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• PointyReality@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Biden was pressuring Israel to act but also to do so with civilians in mind and to allow humanitarian efforts or risk getting cut off from military aid. Also the line that Kamala most probably would have towed as well. This is for those familiar with global politics is expected between long standing allies ( something Trump is currently failing at every stage currently). Meanwhile Orange Musolini has basically said “Have at it, also that spot there would be great for a hotel”. So I fail to see how you could even compare the two. But sure I guess if you happened to fail to grasp the nuance in global politics.

  Unless you happened to have another point to make that is more substantive then “bOth PaRtIeS”.

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  • geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Image

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    • Muaddib@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      May you live in interesting times.

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  • Keeponstalin@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    No, they didn’t apply any genuine pressure, just empty rhetoric while continuing to provide billions worth of weapons unconditionally while Netanyahu ignored every “red line” with zero consequences. Biden is a self-proclamed Zionist, he had no issue with the genocide. All the empty rhetoric was just theater

    The rhetoric coming out of the White House, when it has been focused on peace or restraint, rather than continuous war, has been undercut at every turn by its actions. The constant supply of weapons — $17.9 billion of bullets, bombs, shells, and other military aid in the past year — has allowed Israel to keep waging its war on Gaza, and in recent weeks, expand that war to Lebanon and threaten to escalate its conflict with Iran. Despite documentation of U.S. weapons being used in probable war crimes, and credible allegations that Israel is committing genocide in its war on Gaza, the bombs have continued to flow.

    Year of Empty Rhetoric From the White House on Israel’s Wars

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    • PointyReality@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Did Biden deport anyone protesting this? If the answer is no then historically speaking protests while being allowed have always been a way to apply pressure for change. I won’t argue that they definitely could have done alot more but I won’t accept that both parties are same when at least one of them would have still allowed a way to potentially have changed their stance when the other just deports them because they are fascists.

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      • Keeponstalin@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        No deportations under Biden, but he was also implementing Project Esther

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  • UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Reduce the influence of parties by passing state level electoral reform. Replace of First-past-the-post voting, use a voting system that let’s voters transfer their vote if their first pick didn’t win. Give 3rd parties the opportunity to participate without a spoiler effect.

    You do support democracy right?

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    • PointyReality@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      May I ask what you wrote has to do with anything about the article or what I wrote?

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  • AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Biden was pressuring Israel to act

    idiot

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  • Muaddib@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They’re not comparing the two. They’re equating them. Comparing is what you’re doing. It’s a good thing. You compared them and decided Trump is worse. The spy you’re talking to won’t compare them, and that’s bad.

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    • PointyReality@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You are correct, I should have said equating them towards the end of my point. You are also correct that the opposing side always equates both political sides as essentially the same while failing to recognise the stark differences between them. Although both sides are not perfect, it’s not a nuanced difference like it was before MAGA crazy took over.

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• puchaczyk@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Selling lgbt people, ethnic minorities, immigrants, poor people dependent on social programs only to gain… nothing. What a deal…

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  • geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    First they came for the Palestinians. And you did not speak out because you are not a Palestinian.

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    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No, we did speak up. We just also understand basic causality.

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      • GreyAlien@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        so edgy

        ʕ ͡° ʖ̯ ͡°ʔ

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• prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Holy shit do you have a camera that takes photos of alternate timelines?

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  • meowMix2525@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Were you not here for the last year of Biden’s presidency or something?

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• Muaddib@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You wear a collar.

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