Comment on Discord going public. Plz help a future refugee.

BroBot9000@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• Nikelui@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Because people don’t use discord for privacy. They use it for gaming, voice chat, communities and streaming.

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• doodledup@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I use Signal for private and personal messages. I use Discord solely for gaming and voicechat. A good alternative doesn’t need to be overly private (although that would be a bonus of course). It just needs to have a good UI and feature parity with Discord.

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  • BroBot9000@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There is a difference between willing information that you put out there and data gathering that goes on without your consent.

    Location data is something I don’t want anyone collecting without my consent.

    Why does Element need to know where I’m located? Why is that being gathered with my identifiers?

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    • mac@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You know the app still works if you deny it loc permissions, right?

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      • azalty@jlai.lu ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        still means they’re willing to collect data

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• tofu@lemmy.nocturnal.garden ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Does it? On Android, it never asked me to grant location permission unless I try to share my location to another user. Similar with contacts and calendar, it’s working perfectly fine without them. Where exactly does it link those identifiers and with what?

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  • BroBot9000@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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    This is what shows up when I check Elements. Every other Federated app that I use doesn’t collect any information. Voyager, Pixelfed, Peertube, Mastodon all come up with “No data collected”

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    • tofu@lemmy.nocturnal.garden ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Ah! I don’t know what exactly these mean, would be interesting to see what Element says what those mean. I don’t think Element actually adds these to your messages etc but I don’t know the protocol enough.

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• possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The Element web client will break encryption when you clear your browser data.

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  • tofu@lemmy.nocturnal.garden ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Does it? I think it logs you out and after logging in again, you need to provide your encryption key/verify with other device again in order to access the history. Or wdym with breaking?

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• index@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Signal is centralized and require a phone number to register, it’s not private at all.

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  • BroBot9000@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That’s bullshit.

    A) Privacy =/= anonymity

    B) They have usernames and the option to hide your number from searches for those interested.

    C) Signal has absolutely no way of accessing any of your information: signal.org/bigbrother/ They publish all their subpoenas and there is no information that are able to collect. It’s all encrypted.

    D) Phone numbers are an easy way onboard the normies and Meta addicts that don’t value privacy.

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