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• Lumisal@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Counterpoint - you can know if leader of country x is guilty of killing others if they say they’ve done it quite openly and want to do more of it.

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  • Schmoo@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Killing a leader doesn’t get rid of the position of power that enabled their misdeeds.

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    • Colloidal@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      No, the position is occupied by the next monster. And so on. And so on. Dang, that’s such a nifty way of getting rid of sociopaths!

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      • Schmoo@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        The entire theme of Death Note is that power turns people into sociopaths and that no matter how many “bad people” you kill you will never actually succeed in cleansing the world of evil, but I guess no matter how ham-fisted you make it people will still miss the point. It’s funny that a lot of people complain that Light has an unrealistically naive view of morality and yet this comment section seems to be teeming with people who are equally immature.

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    • mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Eventually you run out of monsters to fill the position (and the supporting positions below). At that point you now have people willing to make positive changes in the world

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      • Schmoo@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        That is not how it works at all, and it’s actually a very childish way of thinking. There is not some finite pool of monsters these positions of power draw from, the positions of power make the monsters. “Power corrupts” is the most common trope in fiction since the advent of fiction for a reason and it’s baffling that so many people still don’t get it.

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    • Lumisal@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Killing people who keep abusing that position of power within an exact amount of time however would either get rid of the position or stop the abuse eventually.

      There’s only so many times a person in a very specific position can be struck by lightning or have a heart attack before everyone sees that position as cursed or becomes superstitious about it.

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      • Schmoo@slrpnk.net ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I mean, dictators have historically often met with a rather grisly end (Mussolini shot and hung upside down by his toes, Hitler blowing his own brains out, Gaddafi sodomized with a bayonet) and that doesn’t seem to stop people from pursuing the same power.

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  • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Then the replacement uses it as justification to further that endeavor.

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    • Lumisal@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Deathnote can kill in any way you want as long as it’s realistic. Not sure how they’d figure it out. Which means that at some point people will start to think divine intervention, especially if ending the war stops the heart attacks / eagle attacks / flag poles falling on said leader, or whatever other symbolism you’d choose.

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      • WoodScientist@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        So many corrupt preachers are gonna get struck by lighting…

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  • RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Perhaps, but then you kill that person and the power vacuum that is now created is likely to attract someone so much worse. There is no guarantee the next person will be better than the current one, and getting rid of the current one may bring someone worse, which would be your doing.

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    • mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Then just get rid of the next monster. Eventually the hierarchy will learn and reform, if by no other means than by the individuals corrupting the structure being eliminated

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      • vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Also there’s the potential you could do a purge of random but known issues within the structure outside of the leader themselves. Wipe out a Lavrenty Beria or Reinhardt Heidrich on occasion to show that it’s not just the leadership position itself being cursed.

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    • Lumisal@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      So? You have a death note. You can give every new entrant a 1 month trail run. Eventually people will figure out a pattern. Humans aren’t that dumb.

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