Comment on Google Chrome disables uBlock Origin for some in Manifest v3 rollout

• kat@orbi.camp ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Security and sandboxing are important, weak points on the android implementation.

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  • CarbonBasedNPU@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    would Vivaldi on android be better? I really like having extensions on my browser and that’s the only other android one I know of that has them.

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• Prox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  No horizontal tab grouping. Tab groups on Chrome are perfect, and the Firefox tab extensions all suck in comparison.

  That said, I’m still using Firefox today because the internet is unusable without a good ad blocker.

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  • purplemonkeymad@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I still use the full screen tab groups feature that they removed from the core. I don’t like scrolling tabs, so I can just hit a button and click on the exact tab I want. I do probably have too many tabs open tbh.

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  • cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Tab groups and vertical tabs are at least on Nightly now; you can enable them in settings.

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• Hawk@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Some js is a bit slower. I typically use chrome for self hosted apps, jupyter etc.

  I think wasm performance is actually better in Firefox though.

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• leftzero@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Mainly that Google intentionally makes its sites (like YouTube or Google Docs) slower and less useable when they detect you’re using Firefox, and/or ad blockers (which you need Firefox to use, so same difference).

  It’s mostly fixable with add-ons and userscripts (and eventually, one hopes, with an antitrust lawsuit), but it’s still a hassle.

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  • Kalysta@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Unfortunately, with the FTC rolling back net neutrality protections, I don’t see an antitrust lawsuit happening, or succeeding, anytime soon

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  • gi1242@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    how do I find out more about this and what scripts do I need to make the sites faster again on Firefox

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    • leftzero@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      https://www.tomshardware.com/news/youtube-responds-to-delayed-loading-in-rival-browser-complaints, for instance.

      Or https://www.zdnet.com/article/former-mozilla-exec-google-has-sabotaged-firefox-for-years/, for an older one.

      As for how to fix it, Mozilla tend to do a pretty good job of eventually working around Google’s bullshit, so keeping the browser updated is a good first step.

      Since Google tends to roll this stuff out regionally and doing A/B testing, though, the best way is to identify what specific handicap they’re hassling you with (which specific features don’t work or don’t work right, when they work properly on chrome), and look for an updated add on or userscript to fix that particular issue.

      Or you can just look for a generic YouTube or Google Docs “enhancer” add on and hope it fixes the issue without making the whole user experience too different from what you’re used to.

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      • thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Would you happen to know whether this is something that a UserAgent spoofer would suffice to get around?

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      • gi1242@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        thanks. I keep Firefox updated. the fact that changing the user agent gets the delay is pretty damning evidence

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• FooBarrington@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I very much dislike Mozilla’s direction over the last decade. They’re introducing user-hostile features that subtly break normal browsing experience, even when disabled[0]. Not like Google is better, but I’m also trying to get away from Mozilla.

  [0] On Firefox Mobile, there’s a “feature” which makes the address bar auto-complete domains of companies paying Mozilla. I noticed this with Netflix - I never visit, but when I start writing a URL with n, roughly every 10th time Netflix was suggested. You can disable this feature, but this doesn’t actually disable it. The address bar no longer auto-completes with Netflix, instead it just doesn’t autocomplete! So 9/10 times I can write n and press Enter, but 1/10 times I press n and search for the letter n.

  Mozilla doesn’t care whether they break features, as long as they can make more money. I strongly dislike this approach by the supposedly “good” browser manufacturer.

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  • Hawk@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Also, I don’t think one can export bookmarks from Android Firefox either.

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  • thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Download fennec it’s the fork of ff mobile with less of the cruft.

    I don’t know if it has fixed that specific problem, but I can’t recall seeing it

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    • Hawk@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      See also Mull, No 120hz though.

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      • Evkob@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Mull was part of the DIvestOS project, which has recently been discontinued.

        For a similarly strengthened fork, I’ve been using IronFox after seeing it recommended on Lemmy.

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    • FooBarrington@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Thanks for the recommendation, I’ll give it a try!

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  • CarbonBasedNPU@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Do you have a good non chromium based alternative? To be clear I genuinely am asking those things make switching probably worth it considering how little of a hassle it is.

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    • mrvictory1@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      GNOME Web if on Linux

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      • CarbonBasedNPU@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        This comment made me look into if KDE has one and apparently they do it even has built in ad blocking.

        Off to compile for 3 hours. /j

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    • FooBarrington@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Sadly not, I’d also be interested in one!

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      • CarbonBasedNPU@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        isn’t chromium under the Linux foundation now? Might look at the options on that side.

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• Sheldan@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I advocate Firefox, but I must admit I personally am affected by regular crashes on Firefox desktop. Mostly when I enter a page I haven’t visited before (randomly though).

  I don’t know if others are affected by this, and I still recommend Firefox regardless, but every crash leaves a sour taste in my mouth. As it is not widespread, it might just be my setup, but still.

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  • IanTwenty@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If you have the time try the troubleshoot mode to help figure it out - add ons are often the cause

    …mozilla.org/…/troubleshoot-firefox-crashes-closi…

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  • CarbonBasedNPU@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Thats really weird. I have never personally had the issue but it is more and fair enough to have issues with FF after that. I would recommend brave then, still chromium based but is actively doing things to make sure their adblock still works.

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    • Sheldan@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I dont have issues with FF, while it is frustrating not using something chromium based still outweighs that heavily. Its kinda of a matter of principle to me.

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• I_Miss_Daniel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  In Australia it won’t save card details. And it can’t natively create app shortcuts for things like Gmail, keep, whatsapp etc.

  I put up with it but it’s a pain compared to chrome and edge.

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• krimson@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I have no idea either. Sure, chrome is a little faster but its a minor difference in my opinion. Been using it for a long time and have no idea why it’s so unpopular.

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  • Enkers@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Also, keep in mind, google has been caught slowing Firefox down in YouTube before. So if you notice any slowness in their services, it’s fair to suspect it might not be Firefox’s fault.

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  • CarbonBasedNPU@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Was Is a little faster.

    No way it stays that way after blocking ad-blocking. Some websites genuinely take over 30s without ad block.

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