Batteries and liquid fuel are both hazardous in terms of catching fire, do you mean something else?
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CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 2 months agoI don’t care about any particular EV brand. Trying to use battery powered EVs for such purposes means that they need to built with heavy, oversized, extra hazardous batteries. The responsible, proper use case for BEVs is short trips with plenty of time for charging at home or work.
tabular@lemmy.world 2 months ago
CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 2 months ago
When these batteries burn, they can’t be put out except by cooling them down somehow because they contain their own oxidizer. So fire departments tend to just let them burn and send whatever metals and other chemicals into the atmosphere. A gasoline fire can be put out with fire suppressants that deprive it of air. Apart from that, the batteries are also hazardous in terms of their manufacturing and disposal lifecycle and also just by making vehicles heavier. Heavier vehicles mean more energetic collisions and they also require bigger brakes, which means more brake dust pollution.
tabular@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I think that refers to lithium ion batteries. Some EVs use lithium iron phosphate (LiFePO4) which can still can catch fire but can be starved of oxygen. Sadly it is heavier but it is made without the immorally sourced cobalt.
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 months ago
One can use natural gas (usually combined with some amount of gasoline). In terms of safety - if you’ve ever seen gas stations with concrete walls between fueling spots, that’s where this is popular, so not very safe.
tabular@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I’ve not seen those (may not be in my country). What do the concrete walls stop, explosions?
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It’s cheaper and more dangerous, and usually done where natural gas is much cheaper than gasoline. Yes, explosions.
rusticus@lemm.ee 2 months ago
And women should stay home and cook. Amirite?
CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 2 months ago
What do domestic roles have anything to do with this topic?
TheFogan@programming.dev 2 months ago
So your suggestion is basically families should own an EV just for getting around home… and a gas guzzler for long distance travel? IMO the ideal should be a slow phase out of the gas cars.
Or you know… instead of needing super heavy batteries… they could have smaller batteries… if charging stations become common enough that people can relatively easily find places to stop and charge on long trips.