I don’t care about any particular EV brand. Trying to use battery powered EVs for such purposes means that they need to built with heavy, oversized, extra hazardous batteries. The responsible, proper use case for BEVs is short trips with plenty of time for charging at home or work.
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TheFogan@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
Just get rid of the charging stations. It’s ridiculous that EV owners should expect to charge their cars anywhere but at home or at work
why the hell is that ridiculous? People do go places other than home and work. People take road trips and vacations. Electric cars are a good thing, just because one particular brand is owned by a narcisist ruining the country.
CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 2 weeks ago
TheFogan@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
So your suggestion is basically families should own an EV just for getting around home… and a gas guzzler for long distance travel? IMO the ideal should be a slow phase out of the gas cars.
Or you know… instead of needing super heavy batteries… they could have smaller batteries… if charging stations become common enough that people can relatively easily find places to stop and charge on long trips.
tabular@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Batteries and liquid fuel are both hazardous in terms of catching fire, do you mean something else?
CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 1 week ago
When these batteries burn, they can’t be put out except by cooling them down somehow because they contain their own oxidizer. So fire departments tend to just let them burn and send whatever metals and other chemicals into the atmosphere. A gasoline fire can be put out with fire suppressants that deprive it of air. Apart from that, the batteries are also hazardous in terms of their manufacturing and disposal lifecycle and also just by making vehicles heavier. Heavier vehicles mean more energetic collisions and they also require bigger brakes, which means more brake dust pollution.
tabular@lemmy.world 1 week ago
I think that refers to lithium ion batteries. Some EVs use lithium iron phosphate (LiFePO4) which can still can catch fire but can be starved of oxygen. Sadly it is heavier but it is made without the immorally sourced cobalt.
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
One can use natural gas (usually combined with some amount of gasoline). In terms of safety - if you’ve ever seen gas stations with concrete walls between fueling spots, that’s where this is popular, so not very safe.
tabular@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’ve not seen those (may not be in my country). What do the concrete walls stop, explosions?
rusticus@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
And women should stay home and cook. Amirite?
CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 1 week ago
What do domestic roles have anything to do with this topic?
EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
Also, not everyone has a parking spot with electricity. How are you supposed to charge if you’re parking on a random place on the street, like most people do? I’d joke about “lower a chain of extension cords from your 20th floor”, but that would be assuming you can park next to your home at all. My building’s parking, for example, had all its spots sold out by now, while the very few ones for sale in the neighborhood cost a fortune. Apparently, they were affordable if you bought the apartment new, but on a secondary market - no.