Comment on Leo knew it was a joke and laughed because it was just a joke

Vespair@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• Duamerthrax@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Leo’s relationships are also transactional and both parties understand that. He gets arm candy and the women get access to high level movie executives/producers.

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• MoonlightFox@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  And another point, as a man a lot younger than say Salma Hayek. I’d happily be her young handsome piece of action. I would also get to be with an extremely attractive woman.

  The same goes for these women and Leonardo Di Caprio. He is objectively an attractive man. It’s also bragging rights. I was in a relarionship with x-celeb. Of course many women dream of being with him, and of course a lot of them are gorgeous.

  I think they are both having a great time, and see no reason to judge.

  I fully agree let’s care about the things that actually matter and actually hurt people.

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  • ThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uk ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    It’s sexist but an older man and a younger woman is judged totally different to an older woman and a younger man.

    Ideally we’d just ask if both are happy and everything is healthy.

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• Droggelbecher@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Hotter take: This shit perpetuates women as sexual objects though, which, in some cases, might even make it easier for someone to rationalize their violence against a woman

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  • Vespair@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    What shit? Allowing adults to make autonomous choices rather than infantilizing and pre-ascribing victim status to them?

    Again, y’all can’t pretend we’re talking about children, we are talking about full legal adults with rights to autonomy.

    If there is coercion or abuse, absolutely demonize and mobilize against that. But until there is, all you have is suspicion and suggestions that infantilize the real adult women in the scenario.

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    • Droggelbecher@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Dating women who are just old enough to be legal but only while they look youthful. While being in a societal position where your life is public and you can do whatever you want, the latter of which many look up to. This normalizes dating women for looks, namely for looking young, instead of for having things in common. This doesn’t exactly improve how women are viewed. Youngness isn’t a woman’s biggest asset and we shouldn’t encourage the normalization of the view that it is. The fact that some women are complicit in this doesn’t change it.

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      • sudneo@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        People are allowed to date for whatever reason they want. As long as two adults are freely consenting it’s not up to you to be the moral police and decide what should push people to date each other.

        They can date for the looks, to look or feel younger, to go outside their comfort zone, for sexual pleasure, for pure intellectual attraction, for material benefit, for […long list].

        This is one of the instances in which the good goal of fighting abuse becomes bigotry. It’s basically like religious moralism.

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      • Vespair@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        There are a million valid reasons to value and date a person, and their looks, even potentially the youthfulness of those looks, is one the same as any other. We don’t live in the world of perfect reason devoid of animalism that you’re pretending; sexual attraction is and is always going to be a part of the equation. While we should continue making strides to ensure women are valued for their contributions to society and have more equitable positions and opportunities, I do not believe that means sterilizing or desexifying society nor artificially pretending the inherently inequitable nature of human attractiveness is somehow something that can be forced into equity through social pressure. Life is just simply more nuanced than that.

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      • bluewing@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        So you want to take agency away from every adult so they conform to your views only?

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      • SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        the latter of which many look up to

        When I read your whole comment, I feel like you’re ascribing the blame in the wrong place. It’s the “many” who choose to look up to these people, using their standards in place of their own, that I would say is the real issue here. Leo doing this does not normalize dating women for looks for me. Neither does Pharrell Williams buying a cybertruck and riding around in it influence or normalize cybertrucks for me. If people want things based on superficial reasons, they’ll learn that it’s only superficial and doesn’t have substance.

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• stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  the thing is, you know he’d go younger if it was legal

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  • Vespair@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Do you? Because that sounds like an assumption to me.

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    • stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      if he is 50 dating 20yo’s, why wouldn’t he? what’s the difference between 20yo and 15yo when you’re 50?

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      • FozzyOsbourne@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        The difference between a grown adult without that much life experience and a literal child who is still going through puberty!

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      • Vespair@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Adulthood is the difference.

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  • Duamerthrax@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Hollywood can and does go younger. Do you think Epstein Island was the only place where the power pedophiles go? Laws don’t matter to these people.

    Has anyone even accused DiCaprio of SA?

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