Yes but have you considered China bad?
Decades ago…
“Why do I need electricity? I have candles. Lights seem excessive.”
Yes, but once most people have electricity, new products will be designed to take advantage of it. Now you can have a washing machine, for example.
Broadband is the same. Once most of your population has high bandwidth, we can start to design things that will use it. Right now we’re still designing for DSL speeds.
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 2 weeks ago
China morally bankrupt and developing at a staggering pace which has somewhat stymied as their scoffing at regulations in favor of backroom dealings is kneecapping themselves.
So if you zoom in close enough, like looking at this amazingly fast reported internet speed and only at this speed, China “good.”
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Notice how many extra hoops you jumped through to get here
RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 2 weeks ago
To arrive at “China Good,” yes you do need to jump through many hoops. Glad we’re on the same page, even if you started out strangely.
AA5B@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
China is a totalitarian regime with more human right, continuing atrocities, corruption, and illegal trade/business practices.
They are also
- bringing a billion people out of poverty and up to modern standards of living in record pace
- building out renewable energy faster than the rest of the world combined
- have like 95% of the worlds EV buses
- are adopting EVs at record pace
- built out the worlds largest high speed rail at record pace
- publish the most scientific paper of any country
- are a hotbed of innovation, manufacturing development
- are quickly building an outstanding space program from almost nothing
Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
So I’m just going to be a completely different person once I have access to these speeds or you are suggesting new tech that will be made available to consumers?
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The second one.
Think back to when you were on dial-up. The concept of a streaming movie service would have been a fantasyland. No one was creating one. The infrastructure wasn’t there. It was impossible.
As soon as people started getting broadband, and enough people got it, streaming services could exist.
Are you different? No, you just want to watch a movie. But now you don’t have to go to Blockbuster.
frezik@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
There are diminishing returns. Unless you’re going to host your own YouTube, the use case for 50Gbps connections to the home is quite small. 4K video streaming at Ultra HD Blu-ray bitrates doesn’t even come close to saturating 1Gbps, and all streaming services compress 4K video significantly more than what Ultra HD Blu-ray offers. The server side is the limit, not home connections.
Now, if you want to talk about self-hosting stuff and returning the Internet to a more peer-to-peer architecture, then you need IPv6. Having any kind of NAT in the way is not going to work. Connection speed still isn’t that important.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Unless you’re going to host your own YouTube…
This is exactly what peer tube is struggling with. This bandwidth would solve the video federation problem.
See, you get it!
frezik@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
Except we need IPv6 before that’s at all viable.
We are not even filling out the bandwidth of pipes we have to the home. “If you build it, they will come” does not apply when there’s already something there that isn’t being fully utilized.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Oh, maybe. I’m not familiar with bandwidth utilization in China.
reksas@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
there could be some new thing that no one has not even bothered to think about because of the limitations. Imagine streaming back when downloading few kilobytes for an hours was considered reasonable, people would have laughed at the very thought of it.
frezik@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
We’re not using the bandwidth we have. Many US cities have service with 1Gbps download speed available. I have it for my own reasons. Servers are the bottleneck; they rarely even reach half that speed.
If we’re not using 1Gbps, why should we believe something would pop up if we had 50Gbps?
Now, direct addressing where everyone can be a server and bandwidth utilization is spread more towards the edges of the network? Then you have something that could saturate 1Gbps. But you can’t do that on IPv4.
Opisek@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
How exactly does NAT prevent that? On good hardware it adds insignificant latency.
frezik@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
It has nothing to do with latency, and everything to do with not being able to directly address things behind NAT.
AA5B@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Take a look at
devContainersas an idea that might be generalized. It’s just docker containers so so big but not huge however the use case ….devContainersare a complete portable development environment, with support from major IDEs. Let’s say I want to work on a Java service. I open my IDE, it pulls the latest Java devContainer with my environment and all my tools, fetches the latest from git, and I’m ready to go. The problem with this use case is I’m waiting this whole time. I don’t want to sit around for a minute or two every time I want to edit a program. The latest copy needs to be here, now, as I open my IDEfrezik@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
Maybe don’t rely on cloud garbage for basic development?
AA5B@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Technically I don’t. I’m also the guy running CI/CD building devContainers for my engineers. They no longer have to worry about updating certificates and versions or security patches, and IT doesn’t have to worry about a lot of crap on their laptops that IT doesn’t manage. Engineers can use a standard laptop install and just get the latest of everything they need, scanned, verified, as soon as it’s available. And since it’s all automated, I can support many variations
At work, I’m on the same network, but working from home, I still need the responsiveness to do my job