If the existence of open source LLMs hinges on the benevolence of one of the few most cancerous tech companies in the world, maybe they’re not really worth it?
This isn’t about “heroes” and “villains”. Facebook has been and has stayed the “villain”, they’ve done something colossally illegal that any mere mortal would be sued to death for (by an another “villainous” instance, the media system that has made piracy a necessity in the first place), and they’re hoping to get away with it simply on technicalities and by having more money for better lawyers. Rules are rules, if you don’t like them maybe Facebook should try to change them (and not just for themselves, but for the rest of us too)?
misk@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
Meta stole from everyone, including those that struggle to make ends meet, so it doesn’t matter that they gave you back some of it. Any moral qualms should evaporate when you consider that they did it to create shareholder value and the rest is philanthropy (aka pretend tax). As a socialist I believe that man is owed for his work and you can’t take from him even though technology makes it so easy.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
As a socialist I believe intellectual property is a falsehood and technological advancement should be for the public good. Open source LLMs are for the public good.
Given the options between having open source LLMs and the US Govt banning non-corpo non-proprietary LLMs and giving a free pass to people like Musk and Altman and Zucc to monopolize, I happily pick the former.
FooBarrington@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
I support FOSS LLMs, but which actually exist? Which LLMs have open-sourced all their training data?
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 hours ago
Mistral? Deepseek?
Not LLM but also SD.
misk@sopuli.xyz 12 hours ago
You’re confusing self entitlement to stuff with the left.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 hours ago
Lolwut? Public good is self-entitlement? Go read a fucking book. Communists are not pro-copyright, especially not when it only benefits the giant corpos.
foenkyfjutschah@programming.dev 23 hours ago
Lieber Genosse, der Hype um Affirming Incompetence (AI) ist der dieser Zeit die höchste Ausdruck der Entfremdung der Menschen von sich selbst, Zeugnis des Begehrens nach und Voraussetzung also der weitergehenden Fetischisierung seines Zugriffs auf Welt. Wie jedoch Bernard Stiegler so schön bemerkte: Kein Savoir-vivre ohne Savoir-faire! Dies seien die unabdingbaren Bedingungen für die Befreiung der Menschheit aus den sich selbst angelegten Ketten zur Errichtung einer geschwisterlichen Ordnung!
(now have fun w/ an LLM’s attempt of “advancement”!)
General_Effort@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
Calling property labor, doesn’t make you a socialist.
misk@sopuli.xyz 12 hours ago
You’re confusing libleft with left.
General_Effort@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
No. Seriously, why do you want to call yourself a socialist?
Grimy@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Don’t give me that slop. No one except the biggest names are getting a dime out it once OpenAI buys up all the data and kills off their competition. It’s also highly transformative, which is perfectly legal.
Copyright laws have been turned into a joke, only protecting big money and their interests.