Interesting! Do you have a link to the original study by any chance?
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NeuronautML@lemmy.ml 2 months agoJust to add a note that this graph comes from a study made on rats. I love the study and i use this graph frequently when discussing drugs, but i think it’s important to know.
Being done on rats also raises the point that it’s done excluding a mental component of using the drug, like for instance how some people use cigarettes in depression for its antidepressant effect or use alcohol to cope with mental health issues.
guaraguaito@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
NeuronautML@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
I had from professor Gable’s page which was linked on wikipedia, but his page seems down and i can only find it from non free sources, but perhaps you’ll be more lucky than me. The name of the study is Gable, RS (2006) “Acute toxicity of drugs versus regulatory status” in Drugs and Society: U.S. Public Policy, Lanham: Rowman & Littlefield.
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
It also doesn’t explore the mental health effects of repeated exposure to large doses of hallucinogens on people, which we still don’t have research on because of how demonized hallucinogens are in most countries doing research on drugs.
Also, I don’t think you’ll get that past an ethics board…
NeuronautML@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Probably not, but i can guarantee you i could find volunteers by the truck load. Hell I’ve met several of them.
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
There’s that “therapist” at a mental health facility that would give ULTRA MACRODOSES of LSD to his patients, put them in a completely white room, strip them naked, chain them together, and play sad and horrifying things to them for DAYS in a row, and the only food they got was a nutrient slop they had to suck out of the wall… that didn’t go well.
Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Bro, share a link if you can, PLEASE.
This sounds like Donald Ewen Cameron’s work, but somehow even more fucked up than what I’ve heard about re: him to date. I absolutely need to know more.
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Oh dear, I’ve found it.
I recommend HEAVILY the podcast “Canadian True Crime,” the recent episodes on Matthew Charles Lamb for more detail.
midlandtoday.ca/…/rape-of-the-mind-lawsuit-expose…
Here’s a link with overall details. The podcast goes into MUCH more graphic detail, though.
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Also I left out that they shocked the shit out of their brains before doing this torture.
cactusupyourbutt@lemmy.world 2 months ago
what about testing the ld50 on humans?
TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I’ve been doing an exhaustive study for the last couple of decades on the effects of whiskey on a human with mental health issues.
guaraguaito@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
Feedback?
TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It’s hard to write down scientific conclusions when you black out at the end of the night, but so far I wouldn’t recommend it. I’ll try again tonight and get back to you.
Laser@feddit.org 2 months ago
Your commitment to science is commendable
isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
“The only difference between screwing around and science is writing it down”