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Just to add a note that this graph comes from a study made on rats. I love the study and i use this graph frequently when discussing drugs, but i think it’s important to know.

Being done on rats also raises the point that it’s done excluding a mental component of using the drug, like for instance how some people use cigarettes in depression for its antidepressant effect or use alcohol to cope with mental health issues.

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TexasDrunk@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I’ve been doing an exhaustive study for the last couple of decades on the effects of whiskey on a human with mental health issues.

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- guaraguaito@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Feedback?
  
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  - TexasDrunk@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    It’s hard to write down scientific conclusions when you black out at the end of the night, but so far I wouldn’t recommend it. I’ll try again tonight and get back to you.
    
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    Laser@feddit.org ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Your commitment to science is commendable
    
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guaraguaito@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Interesting! Do you have a link to the original study by any chance?

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Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

It also doesn’t explore the mental health effects of repeated exposure to large doses of hallucinogens on people, which we still don’t have research on because of how demonized hallucinogens are in most countries doing research on drugs.

Also, I don’t think you’ll get that past an ethics board…

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- Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  There’s that “therapist” at a mental health facility that would give ULTRA MACRODOSES of LSD to his patients, put them in a completely white room, strip them naked, chain them together, and play sad and horrifying things to them for DAYS in a row, and the only food they got was a nutrient slop they had to suck out of the wall… that didn’t go well.
  
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  - Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Bro, share a link if you can, PLEASE.
    
    This sounds like Donald Ewen Cameron’s work, but somehow even more fucked up than what I’ve heard about re: him to date. I absolutely need to know more.
    
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    Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Oh dear, I’ve found it.
    
    I recommend HEAVILY the podcast “Canadian True Crime,” the recent episodes on Matthew Charles Lamb for more detail.
    
    midlandtoday.ca/…/rape-of-the-mind-lawsuit-expose…
    
    Here’s a link with overall details. The podcast goes into MUCH more graphic detail, though.
    
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    Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Also I left out that they shocked the shit out of their brains before doing this torture.
    
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- cactusupyourbutt@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  what about testing the ld50 on humans?
  
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