Same. I’ve learned a lot since I joined Lemmy.
I genuinely believe centralised social media was created to make you feel like you’re doing something.
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ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
The greatest thing that social media ever did for humanity was in its ability to allow all of us to talk to each other in an open platform.
Those private corporate platforms have slowly been eroded and controlled to only waste our time and designed to keep us all angry, afraid, anxious and confused.
Open decentralized social media is bringing us back to that era 20 years ago when social media was just starting and people just talked and openly discussed the issues of the day with one another. It doesn’t matter what kind of platform we have or can create, as long as it is decentralized and controlled by people, everyone will always find value in it because it allows us to talk to one another. The greatest thing I’ve ever found in taking part in the fediverse was in connecting to like minded people who want to talk about the important issues of the day without all the distractions of advertising and without having having to give up my privacy or security and have my identity sold to the highest bidder.
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fuzzy_ad@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Open decentralized social media is bringing us back to that era 20 years ago when social media was just starting and people just talked and openly discussed the issues of the day with one another.
Unless the mods remove your posts.
samus12345@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Then start your own server and post whatever you want.
fuzzy_ad@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Then there’s nothing unique about open and decentralized social media.
The technology where I could “start my own server” has always existed.
samus12345@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Right, but getting people to actually know it exists is the problem. That’s why federated decentralized media is a good thing.
auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
Doesn’t really work once spaces are established. Most of reddits problems aren’t the admins, it’s the volunteers.
Enkers@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Remember, there were plenty of rounds of moderator purges on reddit, especially when subs would lock down in protest. Any mod with ethics and a backbone would’ve been shown the door. So I think it’s fair to say a lot of the moderation problems were at least in part caused by the admins.
At least on Lemmy, different instances have different ethoses, so communities can be more in line with the instance they’re on, and there isn’t this need for absolute centralised conformity.
alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
The next step, in my opinion, is strong privacy and decentralized organization that fully leverages constitutional rights.
I.e. a privacy preserving social media where labour unions, political parties and religious groups can federate with each other. Servers hosted on their premises and members register through an on-premise process.
A church in a foreign country could generate a thousand aliases and distribute them to their federated sister organizations in a privacy preserving way. Only the church knows which organizations got which aliases and they protect this information.
Your local labour union chapter picks up 20 of those aliases and distributes them to members. They are the only one who knows the person behind the alias.
An observer in this private fediverse trying to obtain the identity would first need to approach the church. The church can stall them and warn downstream through a canary.
The labour union chapter observes the canary and immediately wipes all information.
And if that fails, then full I2P and Tor, with nodes hosted on-premise of churches, political parties and labour unions.
bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 1 year ago
constitutional rights
Hate to say it, but there’s the very real possibility those days are numbered.
As it sits, those of us that are savvy need to be actively using and promoting privacy-centric communications methodology to ensure we have a means to communicate safely and effectively as time goes on and those tights are further eroded. I don’t see the internet completely dying, given the technical nature of it, but peering and connectivity will likely be hampered in the coming months and years, so it is in our best interest to find and employ feasible solutions now to attempt getting out ahead of anything those muppets come up with.
alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
You are missing the point.
Those days might be numbered, but these places are the last bastion.
They will invade private homes, businesses and offices with impunity first.
Churches in particular have a long history of being relatively safe in (civil) war.
Not immune, just relatively.
bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 1 year ago
these places are the last bastion.
That’s what I mean? We need to cultivate and solidify our online sanctuaries, or at least methods of secure and private communication now, before everything goes full tits up, because, as you said, they will be all up in our business before we know it.
Like, I’m working on a solution to have someone “steal” my guns so I can file the police report relatively soon, as well as shoring up my servers/archives in the event that the internet becomes intermittent, including hosting a full copy of Wikipedia. I’m also looking into buying some ham radio equipment and speed running that learning curve. I hate to have a tinfoil hat on, but I’m fairly certain something between widespread civil disturbance, civil war, and the collapse of our country are right around the corner, and shit is about to get nasty real quick. The absolute most effective tools we’ll have are communications and information.
samus12345@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Yeah, the US Constitution is just a piece of paper now because nobody’s enforcing it.
bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 1 year ago
It may be a good time to note that the constitution page on whitehouse.gov is still 404ing.
It’s available on congress.gov and archived under bidenwhitehouse.archives.gov, but the current admin has yet to put it back.
heavydust@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
allow all of us to talk to each other
I was doing that just fine 30/40 years ago with BBS, newsgroups, and later with forums such as Lemmy. Social media put a name or a face on people, and was combined with the regular “eternal septembers,” but it didn’t bring anything useful to the conversation IMHO.
Zorque@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You are the exception, not the rule. Just because you have an easy time with something does not mean everyone does. Everyone experiences interaction in a different way.
Just because it brings no value to your life does not mean that opinion is universal.
heavydust@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Just because you have an easy time with something does not mean everyone does
That was the whole point of my answer.
bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 1 year ago
It did break down the barriers for those less technical by bringing the conversation to a web browser that was certainly more accessible as opposed to a terminal, for better or worse. It’s not far off from the fediverse in that it does take some technical understanding to navigate, which does create a sort of barrier. Now, whether that is good or bad is a subject of debate, and I’m inclined to agree that the more accessible a platform is, the more watered down the conversations become.
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It did break down the barriers for those less technical by bringing the conversation to a web browser that was certainly more accessible as opposed to a terminal, for better or worse.
I beg your pardon, but what about web forums? I don’t think anything technical was required with those.
balder1991@lemmy.world 1 year ago
They were good, but is there good forum platforms nowadays that are mobile friendly, have apps etc.?
Irelephant@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I love mastodon because its actual people I’m following, so I can see whats happening in their lives, in contrast to twitter, which just showed me constant outrage bait and shitposts.
ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
I’ve been lazy on Mastodon because I’ve been spending all my time on Lemmy … I really should do more there in the future … thanks for the reminder.
Irelephant@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Heh, same. The “subreddit” format is incredibly addictive.