Comment on Uber Eats undercover: Delivering your food for $1.74 an hour

LovableSidekick@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• TheLowestStone@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I live in California where we attempted to pass a law that would force these companies to hire their drivers as employees. Every gig worker i know bought the corpo propaganda and voted against it. That was when I realized exactly how much of an education and media literacy problem we have in this country.

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  • LovableSidekick@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    The education and media literacy problem has been brewing for decades. Our culture is so entertainment addicted, lots of people can’t even take a shit without watching something on their phones. I had high hopes in a progressive victory and a slow turnaround, but Trump winning after everything that’s happened tells me we’ve gone over the event horizon into Idiocracy and collapse. Not looking forward to it.

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  • eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    That law still pisses me off. I heard that it got a court check because of a clause in the amendment required a 7/8ths majorty vote in both the Senate and Assembly, but I don’t recall if the judge ruled to keep it or abolish it.

    California can be such a great state, but sometimes we vote for the dumbest shit because companies lobbied for ads that make no sense but to the dumbest voter. The most recent set of props come to mind.

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    • TheLowestStone@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I know the courts upheld it in 2023. I haven’t heard of anything changing since then.

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    • Raiderkev@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Like every time we vote to keep dialysis shitty?

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      • eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I never understand why we keep voting for it each election, but more:

        calmatters.org/…/california-propositions-election…

        • Voted no on rent control because of successful propaganda by landlords
        • Voted no raising the minimum wage because of successful propaganda by companies
        • Voted no on affordable housing because "muh taxes"
        • Voted no on banning prison labor, because “Hey if they went to jail, they should burn in a forest fire, paying them is icky!!”

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  • theonlytruescotsman@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    The problem with that law is many that qualify to deliver now, wouldn’t if they were considered employees, and a lot of homeless/near homeless deliver instead of begging.

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    • TheLowestStone@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      That argument is just a regurgitation of the propaganda that these people bought into. You can’t possibly know what would have happened because the law was voted down. I think that if those companies severely restricted the number of drivers they allowed, quality of service would decline and they would end up losing market share. In the end, there probably are somewhat fewer drivers, but those drivers are guaranteed to be making at least minimum wage plus mileage and access to health insurance.

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      • theonlytruescotsman@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        No, that’s my personal experience and prediction knowing how shit corporations are. Yeah, in an idealized world we’d all be w2 workers, but there also wouldn’t be homeless and there’s be easy to enter programs to make money if you are.

        But until those programs are in place you’re risking the jobs of tens of thousands of people without other options. For no reason.

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  • Raiderkev@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    My buddy who was a driver at the time would try to convince the Uber drivers in the lot at the airport and they all believed the propaganda from TV and radio that was clearly paid for by Lyft and Uber. The majority of the American public are just not intelligent.

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• sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I don’t buy through food delivery apps, I only order delivery if the store itself provides the service.

  And I didn’t vote for Kamala Harris, not because of Gaza, but because she sucks in a lot of areas. I also didn’t vote for Trump because he also sucks in a lot of ways. My state is heavily partisan, so me voting for one or the other feels like more of a wasted vote than voting third party, because everyone knows which party will win my state before the primaries even start, so I might as well juice the third party numbers a bit.

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  • HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Last time I tried doing that I spent an hour trying to find a restaurant that still had delivery drivers on staff.

    Fucking capitalism is killing everything.

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I just stick to two or three, and drive to the rest. I don’t order delivery enough to need more than that.

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    • Jamablaya@lemmy.today ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Are you for fucking real? Capitalism is killing your ability to lay on your ass and order food brought to you?

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• dx1@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I didn’t vote for Harris because she’s one of them. I also don’t use food delivery. Enjoying your feeling of superiority from pointing out the hypocrisy of random group intersections?

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  • LovableSidekick@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Reading comprehension dude - I specifically addressed the Harris question to people who are in both categories.

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• otp@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  So how many lemmy users are going to stop using food delivery to avoid being complicit?

  I generally avoid food delivery apps because of the extra cost either way…but if you have a problem with the wages, just tip more. Tip cash if you have it – there’s no way for the app to get its hands on that money!

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  • LovableSidekick@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I either pick up the food myself or eat there and highly tip the server, because that’s how the system works right now - but long term it would be better if they got more wages and didn’t need to rely on generosity.

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    • otp@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Definitely. I wish we’d ban tipping in North America.

      And also put the taxes into the sticker/menu prices. No more of this price jumping at the register.

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      • LovableSidekick@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I see the justification in adding the tax on afterwards because putting it on stickers and menus imposes more work on the business whenever the sales tax changes. If you’ve ever done a store inventory you’ll get it. Also if you live in a place with sales tax, which in America means almost everywhere, you get used to mentally approximating it, or at least knowing it’s going to be added on - and a sales tax amount is mandated, it isn’t something you have to agonize over.

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  • Tregetour@lemdro.id ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    but if you have a problem with the wages, just tip more.

    enabler | noun

    en·​abler i-ˈnā-b(ə-)lər

    : one that enables another to achieve an end especially : one who enables another to persist in self-destructive behavior (such as substance abuse) by providing excuses or by making it possible to avoid the consequences of such behavior

    psychcentral.com/health/are-you-an-enabler

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    • otp@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Someone using the service is already an en·abler (i-ˈnā-b(ə-)lər).

      Tipping well enables the drivers to pay their bills, at least.

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• rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I never used them. Smug_face.png.

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  • LovableSidekick@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I don’t use them either.

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    • rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Together we will rule over this wretched land.

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      • LovableSidekick@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Until a sudden but inevitable betrayal.

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• eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  This is… a weird gotcha. “You claim to be aginast murder, but sometimes you like to order Taco Bell! Checkmate, progressives!”

  I personally voted for Harris despite being in California, but I can’t afford doordash for going out. It’s often:

  • Meal Price (often but not always extra charges because fuck you, they can
  • Service fees
  • Driver fees
  • Tip to get someone to deliver in my rural area

  Meanwhile I can often walk to there and put in my order in the same amount of time. It’s often even cheaper to take the bus someplace, then take the bus back. Doordash makes more sense in an urban area, but I don’t live in one. And when I am in one, I’m often with a friend who knows how to drive.

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• NlGGER@leminal.space ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Not a single soul lol they don’t even know what normal food is

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  • dx1@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Doesn’t really seem to help when it still shows their username…

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    • otp@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      This is why I’m never in favour of unrestricted, uncensored speech in public forums…lol

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