Comment on Sony's Crunchyroll Finds Its Early Lead in Anime Under Attack

RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• Cort@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Because pirating is literally the same as watching through those other sites

  This is absolutely not true!

  The pirated versions have better subs and editors notes to translate signage, explain/translate in-jokes, and cultural differences, not to mention the onomatopoeia that most “streaming sites” never bother to translate.

  If you’re watching anything other than the pirate version, you’re probably missing out on some things.

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  • RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    When I said that I really meant with regards to the anime studio getting money from the viewer, not with the quality of the anime itself. But you are correct, anime is having a big problem with bad localization lately.

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  • ReluctantZen@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The pirated versions have better subs and editors notes to translate signage, explain/translate in-jokes, and cultural differences, not to mention the onomatopoeia that most “streaming sites” never bother to translate.

    Maybe I’m looking in the wrong places, but fan subs rarely happen anymore, don’t they?

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    • Cort@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Fansubs are less common and more delayed, but I’ve seen some when I miss an episode or skip a week

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• Alexstarfire@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Plenty watch using Crunchyroll. At this point there’s only 2 anime-only sites in aware of: Crunchyroll and Hi-Dive. Even though I didn’t subscribe to Funimation, I was not happy when they were purchased by Crunchyroll. There isn’t enough competition in the area now.

  No one is getting Netflix, Prime, Hulu, whatever to watch anime. I’m sure as hell not. I’ll watch what they have if I already have the service though. At best it’s a bonus. Any popular anime that’s on a non-anime only site is likely going to be pirated far more. Might even stretch that to anything not on Crunchyroll at this point.

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• ReluctantZen@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  We all are. Because pirating is literally the same as watching through those other sites

  I don’t quite agree that all of us are and that it’s the same. Crunchyroll is huge after all. I think legal streaming is generally more convenient too, especially on anything other than a PC. Most pirate streaming sites are ad riddled and even if you use an adblocker they sometimes still pass through or you’re caught in a DDOS protection loop. Finding a decent site is actually just a pain. The quality is worse most of the time too, since they’re just rips from services such as CR.

  Torrenting isn’t much better and certainly not more convenient.

  That’s not to say pirating isn’t huge It is and it’s a good counterweight against massive corporations. I still pirate, when it’s not available here (looking at you HIDIVE or all the shows CR still hasn’t ported over from Funimation), or when a company like Amazon has the exclusive rights to an anime, but otherwise it’s through legal ways for me because it’s generally much easier.

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  • remon@ani.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Torrenting isn’t much better and certainly not more convenient.

    Somebody already mentioned automating your torrents with sonarr/radarr … after that ad the files to a media library like plex or jellyfin and you’re expirence is just as convinent as any professional streaming serives. Maybe more convenient.

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    • ReluctantZen@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I have a Jellyfin server. That’s still not nearly as convenient. You have to setup and maintain your own server that way. The majority of anime fans are not going to do this.

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  • bread@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If you’re using sonarr and radarr, which is definitely not what most pirates are doing, piracy is the most convenient by leagues. You get everything under one service and it automatically shows up as soon as it’s available in the quality you’ve specified interest in.

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    • ReluctantZen@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yea, Sonarr and Radarr are nice, but imo still not as convenient

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• Smash@lemmy.self-hosted.site ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Free sites also always have way more features and the animators don’t see a penny from the subscription fee of streaming services anyways

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  • RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I mean, some subscription services do pay the IP owners, but many times it is at a reduced rate. The best thing that you can do to support your favorite studios is buy bluray releases and merch direct from the studio, or as direct as possible.

    Pirating doesn’t directly pay studios, but if you pirate and then buy bluray/merch, the studio is definitely getting more of your money than if you were paying for a subscription service.

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  • Unboxious@ani.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    the animators don’t see a penny from the subscription fee of streaming services anyways

    I don’t know where you got that impression, but sites like Crunchyroll definitely pay to be able to host anime on their site. Where exactly do you think that money comes from?

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    • Smash@lemmy.self-hosted.site ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They pay the rightsholders, very little of this makes it to the studio and close to nothing goes to the normal employees

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      • Unboxious@ani.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Sometimes the studios are the rightsholders. As for whether the animators and other staff in the industry are well compensated, I think there’s almost nothing that can be done about that. Where there is passion it will be exploited.

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