Comment on Even better than a cart of apples

Iheartcheese@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

• LegoBrickOnFire@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Those are things that regulate the tension in the overhead cables in train tracks. With the variation of temperature cables tend to contract/expand and this systems allows the cables to do so freely with a constant tension provided by the weights.

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  • verstra@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    These are so simple and yet so clever. When i noticed them the first time i started noticing them everywhere (on all rail infrastructure).

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    • RubberElectrons@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I as well. Seattle transit, NEC Amtrak and NJ transit live off of these. If these systems work for them, they’ll work for us all

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    • someacnt_@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Is it simple? It looks quite complicated, but maybe that’s just me forgetting how to compute forces.

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      • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        simple in that it’s just a clever series of wires and pulleys, not some sort of digital adjustment device, i suppose

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  • drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    There’s a video about this that explains it pretty in depth.

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• Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  In case people don’t want to click a link, let me explain it here:

  If you want to use overhead line electrification, you need to suspend a wire over the rails. In theory, you could simply hang up a wire, but whichever amount of tension you choose, if it’s warmer outside, the wire will droop, potentially causing damage, while if it’s colder outside, the wire will pull taut and may snap. So you want a system to account for external temperature.

  Instead of picking a tension at a standard installation temperature, you pick an amount of desired tension and use weights to pull it taut. Now, if the wire heats up and extends, the weights drop, and if the wire cools down and contracts, the weights are pulled up.

  And to keep the amount of weight you need to add under control, you use a series of pulleys to control the tension in the wire.

  In NL, the mainline system looks a lot simpler: They have only one wheel, but that’s two pulleys: a larger one and a smaller one. The larger one holds the weight, while the smaller one holds the wires.

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  • Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    With the previous ELI12 under control, let’s ELI>12 overhead line catenary a little more. For instance, why do you need tension in the first place?

    Fact of the matter is that using a rigid conductor is problematic with high voltage AC (skin effect and such), plus it’s more visually intrusive than wires. Meanwhile, a wire will sag, regardless of how much tension you can practically apply. So you need a few devices to help keep the wire at height.

    For one, the wire is supported every few dozen metres. Secondly, there’s a second wire strung above the first one. And while both wires are pulled taut, there are dropper wires between the upper and lower wires, which vary in length. Longer near the poles, while at the shortest near the middle between two poles, which creates a structure similar to a suspension bridge to keep the contact wire within a tight margin of vertical space.

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• IndustryStandard@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  The train duh

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