Bullshit. I have an account on X since it was Twitter. No post, no followed people, no follower. I don’t use my timeline. I just use it because many dealers use it as a channel to communicate with customers through DM. I’m a a fascist?
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wildflower@lemmy.world 3 days ago
At this point in time, anyone left on the platform formerly known as Twitter, is either a fascist, or at least think that fascism isn’t that big a deal.
Engywuck@lemm.ee 3 days ago
itsathursday@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Stats don’t care if you are or aren’t, you are +1 to the equity that Twitter uses to get money through advertisers, which gets funnelled to Elon and his interests, and now Trump. This leads to reducing your overall opportunities through fascism that contribute to you finding comfort in what your dealer is supplying you. Quit hitting yourself.
Engywuck@lemm.ee 3 days ago
Hope every single people on this thread quit using Amazon/Youtube and anything Meta for vey similar reasons. I’m waiting.
TootGuitar@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
I actually agree with you on the Amazon/Youtube/Meta thing and I’m trying my hardest to stop using all those companies, but I think another point here is that Twitter is much more directly connected to fascism, given that it’s owned by the guy who just spent a week crashing the post-election party at Mar-A-Lago.
wildflower@lemmy.world 3 days ago
No but apparently you don’t think that it is that big of a deal?
Engywuck@lemm.ee 3 days ago
Here we are…
trespasser69@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Not really
Engywuck@lemm.ee 3 days ago
That’s something I hate in place like these, lately: you’re either a good boy if you do what I think it’s right or you’re an evil fascist if you dare not to follow “the right path”. People seem to forget that there are a lot of shades of grey between black and white.
ms_lane@lemmy.world 3 days ago
It’s actual fascism.
Not the modern made up diatribe about fascism.
The fasces is a bundle with an axe - anyone outside the bundle gets chopped. That’s actual fascism. It’s what both the far left and far right proscribe and (correctly) accuse the other of doing.
Forget sides, forget the bundle. Just be a good person and keep your own ethical code.
neblem@lemmy.world 2 days ago
You really should encourage your contacts to use more secure channels than Twitter dms, especially for illicit behavior.
RageAgainstTheRich@lemmy.world 3 days ago
That is just not true. I hate twitter but i still use it. I am autistic and follow very specific things on it and while i also use mastodon and bluesky, there is barely anyone that has the same current interests as i do.
I don’t like it but i also don’t completely want to alienate myself from people i enjoy talking to and seeing their stuff. I try to follow them all on mastodon and bluesky if they have an account there, but not everyone has that.
I have all ads blocked and purely use it for my hobbies. So suggesting that makes me a fascist is absolutely ridiculous. We are trying to move to another platform but its not as easy as you make it out to be.
Same as Lemmy. I love Lemmy. BUT there are things that just so not exist here yet that do exist on reddit. And i have no interest in making a community for it either as i don’t want to moderate anything.
Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 days ago
So because there aren’t other options that are as good for your personal use, you are OK with using a fascist supporting platform. But somehow you think it’s unfair to say you are sort of OK with fascism, since you are using a clearly fascist supporting platform.
IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 3 days ago
So you’re okay with violence for communisms sake? Just want to be clear because the developers and most admins do.
helios@social.ggbox.fr 3 days ago
That’s just not true. My mate uses it to follow music bands they like. The problem we have with X is that everybody uses it so you have to use it you wanna stay in the loop. I don’t use I myself but i can understand why people still do.
Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Ooohh if it’s for MUSIC I guess it’s OK to be a fascist.
But you know the bands go where teir followers are right? Also he is supporting bands that ALSO don’t have a problem with fascism.
It goes both ways.helios@social.ggbox.fr 3 days ago
People were already on twitter before some right wing weirdo bought it. They just kept using it because the reality is normies don’t know better or don’t care. I’m not saying it’s a good thing, but saying every X user is a fascist seams an oversimplification.
Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 days ago
saying every X user is a fascist seams an oversimplification.
That’s a straw man, nobody I saw here claimed that. The claim is that they don’t mind fascism. Which is not the same.
You can take a country with only 10%, if the remaining 90% remain passive. Staying at Xitter is remaining passive about their fascist propaganda.
droporain@lemmynsfw.com 3 days ago
What if a band had very vocal Nazi beliefs even lyrically, would you still like them because the music was good? Lol that is you.
helios@social.ggbox.fr 3 days ago
What if a band had very vocal Nazi beliefs even lyrically, would you still like them because the music was good?
I don’t see how that’s relevant to be honest. Twitter users didn’t choose for Musk to be in charge, and I’m sure a lot remaining users hate him.
Lol that is you
I said I don’t use twitter, what’s your point ?
droporain@lemmynsfw.com 2 days ago
You know what you have if you sit at a table with 10 Nazis? 11 Nazis.
PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world 3 days ago
That’s complete and utter nonsense.
There are groups of people using it that have no contact with politics or anything out of their sphere of interest. I am in a couple of such groups.
I would love to go somewhere else and I am on lemmy, mastodon even bluesky, but there are no such communities there.
Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 days ago
that have no contact with politics
Ergo they are not against fascism.
You just helped prove the point.PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I understand you are hurt and angry.
But you have to understand there are people out there from all around the world, that have no desire to observe the grotesque circus of american politics. You are in your own bubble of people that think the world has ended, but most people in the world have different worries and concerns.
taladar@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
Most people have the concern that the Trump concept is being copied to their country’s politics now.
Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 days ago
But you have to understand there are people out there from all around the world
That doesn’t change anything, whatever country you are from, using Xitter means you are using and thereby supporting a fascist platform.
You are in your own bubble
OK, and which bubble is that?
Seems to me that you are talking about things you don’t know shit about.
wildflower@lemmy.world 3 days ago
…but there are no such communities there
“Be the change you want to see in the world.” ;-)
PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Yes, that’s why I wrote that I’m here. But it’s not happening. Maybe something will change in the future, but at this moment there is nothing anyone can to do, to move these communities.
bufalo1973@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Except everything is related to politics. The price of the bread is politics. The roads made, politics too. Having to pay the doctor or not, politics.
Politics is not “what the politicians do”. It’s “affairs of the cities”, from Ancient Greek πολιτικά (politiká). And everything that affects more than one person is an “affair of the cities”.
neblem@lemmy.world 2 days ago
If you are a major contributor in a niche community, you can publicize your move with info of how to keep following you and syndicate links to your content on your desired platform for a set time then leave. On your desired platform let followers from Xitter know how to follow you (email, rss, bridgy, etc) if they don’t want to join your desired platform.
If you are mostly a content consumer or have FOMO, use a bridge not an account. DM all the friends you want to keep of where to find you then leave. Bird.makeup is a great Xitter bridge for the fedi.
In either case, there isn’t a reason to keep am account there.
IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I love seeing these comments firmly showing how out of touch some/most of Lemmy is.
oce@jlai.lu 3 days ago
There are a lot of people and organizations that are just slow to move and don’t really know where to go.
TseseJuer@lemmy.world 2 days ago
this is an UNHINGED leap… so by that logic anyone living in america supports killing “foreign” civilians, bombing cities etc etc???
wildflower@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Seriously? It’s a social media site that openly support and spread right-wing misinformation, how is that comparable? People have no say in where they where born, and not all have the luxury of packing everything and move to another country, supporting a social media site is a choice.
TseseJuer@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I didn’t say people born here I said living. so all the people that have moved here willingly support bombing and invading since they chose to live here.
Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 1 day ago
As a third party I don’t think we should blame America for the genocide in Gaza. We should blame Israel. We are all complicit (and way worse of course being a sponsor) by not calling it out.
Interstellar_1@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 days ago
I know a lot of people still on twitter who ate firmly against fascism. I don’t know why they’re still on there though.
nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 3 days ago
Because, as an example, some very important services communicate solely through Zitter. Emergency alerts, fire depart, governmental bodies, etc. Do I despise that? Yes. Do I ask them to move? Yes. Are they? Hell no.
taladar@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
Not while you are showing them you are still on there.
missphant@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 days ago
For a lot of marginalized people Twitter was a place to escape to and find like-minded people, I can see how it’s hard to make a new place feel as homely. Most of us here left another site because we didn’t agree with the leadership so it’s a very biased group, “just do the same thing we did”. Not everyone is in as privileged of a position though and it might be way harder for them to leave than you can imagine.
noodlejetski@lemm.ee 3 days ago
“I can fix him”
Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Eat the rich. 😋
nonentity@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
Don’t eat shit, mulch the rich.