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Comment on Elon's Death Machine (aka Tesla) Mows Down Deer at Full Speed , Keeps Going on "Autopilot"

Hubi@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

The poster, who pays Tesla CEO Elon Musk for a subscription to the increasingly far-right social media site, claimed that the FSD software “works awesome” and that a deer in the road is an “edge case.” One might argue that edge cases are actually very important parts of any claimed autonomy suite, given how drivers check out when they feel the car is doing the work, but this owner remains “insanely grateful” to Tesla regardless.

How are these people always such pathetic suckers.

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nialv7@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Yeah this Tesla owner is dumb. wdym “we just need to train the AI to know what deer butts look like”? Tesla had radar and sonar, it didn’t need to know what a deer’s butt looks like because radar would’ve told it something was there! But they took it away because Musk had the genius idea of only using cameras for whatever reason.

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AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
I’d go even farther and say most driving is an edge case. I used 30 day trial of full self-driving and the results were eye opening. Not how it did: it was pretty much as expected, but looking at where it went wrong.

Full self driving did very well in “normal” cases, but I never realized just how much of driving was an “edge” case. Lane markers faded? No road edge but the ditch? Construction? Pothole? Debris? Other car does something they shouldn’t have? Traffic lights not aligned in front of you so it’s not clear what lane? Intersection not aligned so you can’t just go straight across? People intruding? Contradictory signs? Signs covered by tree branches? No sight line when turning?

After that experiment, it seems like “edge” cases are more common than “normal” cases when driving. Humans just handle it without thinking about it, but the car needs more work here

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tacosanonymous@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Sunk cost? Tech worship?

I’m so jaded, I question my wife when she says the sun will rise tomorrow so I really don’t get it either.

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leftytighty@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Being a run of the mill fascist (rather than those in power) is actually an incredibly submissive position, they just want strong daddies to take care of them and make the bad people go away. It takes courage to be a “snowflake liberal” by comparison

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NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Edge cases (NOT features) are the thing that keeps them from reaching higher levels of autonomy. These level differences are like “most circumstances”, “nearly all circumstances”, “really all circumstances”.

Since Tesla cares so much more about features, they will remain on level 2 for another very long time.

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teft@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
I grew up in Maine. Deer in the road isn’t an edge case there. It’s more like a nightly occurrence.

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- TheLowestStone@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I drove through rural Arkansas at sundown once. I’ve never seen so many deer in my life.
  
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  - nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Same in northern Michigan in mid summer. And most of New England as well.
    
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    TheLowestStone@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    I grew up in upstate NY so I’m no stranger to deer. This was something else. We were driving through the Winding Staircase mountain and there were hundreds of them. My wife kept screaming and grabbing my arm while I was driving until I had to stop in the middle of the (empty except for us and the deer) road to calmly explain that she was making the situation significantly worse.
    
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- spankmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Same in Kansas. Was in a car that hit one in the 80s and see them often enough that I had to avoid one that was crossing a busy interstste highway last week.
  
  Deer are the opposite of an edge case in the majority of the US.
  
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  - Snowpix@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    It’s no different in Southern Ontario where I live. Saw a semi truck plow into one, it really wasn’t pretty. Another left a huge dent on my mom’s car when she hit one driving at night.
    
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  - Granite@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Same, hit one just south of Lyndon at night.
    
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  - leftytighty@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Putting these valid points aside we’re also all just taking for granted that the software would have properly identified a human under the same circumstances…
    
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    spankmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    I’m not taking that for granted. If it can’t tell a solid object os in the road, I would guess that would be true for a human that is balled up or facing away as well.
    
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