Comment on Opera explains how it plans to keep uBlock Origin support as Google Chrome disables it

bassomitron@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• CosmoNova@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Opera, being owned by Chinese big tech is probably the only “mainstream” browser I find worse than Chrome and I doubt it will have any measurable effect on Googles market dominance. Don’t get me wrong Google would absolutely deserve to trip and fall for the enshittification route they’re taking, but I don’t see how Opera could do what Firefox can’t when Opera is very reliant on Google.

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  • bassomitron@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I was referring to Google banning ad blockers more than Opera’s move to bypass the block in chromium. I should have clarified that in my original comment, but I was quite sleep deprived when I wrote it.

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• T156@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Unfortunately, I doubt it. Chrome made it as big as it did because it had one of the biggest tech and advertising companies in the world behind it. Other than Microsoft with building in Internet Explorer into Windows, thereor Apple doing that with Safari, isn’t anything else that could compete as easily, and we all how that went for Microsoft.

  And it would only be harder today, since they’d not only have go contend with Chrome, but also that a lot of websites are being built around Chrome/browsers using the Chromium engine. People would go to a website that either refuses to work, or doesn’t work properly for their browser and hop over to Chrome instead.

  Netflix requires specific DRM addons that are really only available for the major browser engines, as an example. If someone is rolling their own, like KDE does, then that’s going to refuse to work outright.

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• TheFunkyMonk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I know I’m a drop in the bucket but I have always been a diehard Google fanboy and, in the recent years, have switched to iOS, Firefox, and DuckDuckGo. No regrets.

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  • mbirth@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    There’s dozens of us! Dozens! (Switched to Apple after 12 years of being an Android enthusiast.)

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    • boonhet@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I also switched after about 10 years of dunking on iPhone users for accepting locked up phones with inferior hardware.

      Turns out the software experience is a lot better and if you want access to your banking apps, you have to keep your Androids locked up nowadays anyway. I’d always ran custom roms, but one day I couldn’t anymore so I thought long and hard and in the end just went to the nearest Apple store and bought an iPhone.

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• NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  If the chrome market share significantly degrades then google will stop pumping so much money into it.

  And considering basically everyone but Firefox (and maybe Safari?) are based on Chromium to some degree…

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  • pennomi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Safari is WebKit, which branched off from Chrome when Google forked WebKit into Blink. So they’re like siblings.

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    • stoy@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Technically, Chrome branched off from Safari when they forked WebKit into Blink…

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      • pennomi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yeah the way I phrased it was super awkward

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  • partial_accumen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    And considering basically everyone but Firefox (and maybe Safari?) are based on Chromium to some degree…

    Opera Browser (before it was sold to a Chinese company) did have its own browser engine before it went Chromium. It was called Presto. source. The team that used to own/run Opera before the sale to China formed again to make the Vivaldi browser.

    Vivaldi and Brave will continue to support Manifest V2 addons (like uBlock Origin) until July 2025. The article doesn’t say how long Opera will continue, but I’m guessing its the same deadline of July too.

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    • cfi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Presto era Opera was fantastic. At the time Firefox was kinda stagnating and Opera was just innovating.

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      • seaQueue@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        You might like Vivaldi, they’re the most innovative chromium derived browser that I’ve used

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    • NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      So… basically everyone but Firefox (and maybe Safari?) are based on Chromium to some degree?

      Because if there is not massive amounts of money and resources pumped into Chromium development? Vivaldi and Brave will be up a creek

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      • boonhet@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        So… basically everyone but Firefox (and maybe Safari?) are based on Chromium to some degree?

        Technically Chromium is based on Safari to some degree, but they split ways a long, long time ago.

        Ladybird is eventually going to be a brand new browser on its’ own engine, hopefully.

        Servo is being worked on again, so that’s something.

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      • partial_accumen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        So… basically everyone but Firefox (and maybe Safari?) are based on Chromium to some degree?

        Yes.

        Because if there is not massive amounts of money and resources pumped into Chromium development? Vivaldi and Brave will be up a creek

        Well, the browser will function just fine with Manifest V2 support removed in July 2025, but lots of addons will no longer work.

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  • grubbyweasel@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    good. a massive shakeup like that would be great

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