I mean I think it can be boiled down pretty simply: cause the least harm to living things that you can personally manage. Having impossible goals isn’t necessarily a bad thing. If your impossible goal is to make a billion dollars ethically, and you get to 50 million being 95% ethical, you could still consider that a win, even though you didn’t reach your impossible goal.
Even the simple goal of “always being a good person 100% of the time” is probably impossible to achieve over an entire lifetime while meeting every person’s definition of it. That doesn’t mean it’s useless for someone to strive for that within their definition of “good person”.
In fact I’d say the vast majority of meaningful, non trivial goals could be considered “impossible”.
ebc@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
I’ve always wondered if vegetables from a farm that uses horse-drawn tills instead of tractors would be vegan… It’s a real question, but everyone I ask thinks that I’m trolling.
howrar@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
Or animal manure, or pesticides
Sunshine@lemmy.ca 6 days ago
I mean vegans want veganic produce the most. But it’s not widespread enough to be able to only eat that. It’s not about being perfect but doing what you can.
v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 10 months ago
I’d say no because horses can’t consent to being used for this. Horse riding is generally not considered vegan either
multifariace@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Each vegan will have their own answer. If you are truly curious, and a vegan is sharing their mindset with you, ask them.
littlewonder@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Here’s my weird question: if faux leather is plastic and someone is vegan for environmental reasons, would leather be preferable? What if it’s a byproduct and would otherwise be trashed? These are things I think about as someone who tries to reduce my impact on the environment as much as I feasibly can in a capitalist society.
v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 10 months ago
Depends on the faux leather. There absolutely are alternatives to leather that are less environmentally taxing than leather. Leather needs to be cured, for example, and the entire leather production process is very water-intensive and involves a lot of nasty chemicals. So apart from using a dead animal’s skin to wear, it’s also abysmal for the environment.
littlewonder@lemmy.world 10 months ago
You’re right about the leather processing. I didn’t consider that.
I heard there’s a new mushroom-based leather alternative that will hopefully get traction.
Maggoty@lemmy.world 10 months ago
If insects are animals then are vegans getting all of their food from 100% organic gardens that grow in a cooperative manner?
wh0_cares@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 months ago
Oooooooh, even using tractors could be considered non-vegan, if they’re powered by fossil fuels, then they’re powered from the remains of dinosaurs, which were very much animals