Steam takes a lot of money for their service, which is a problem.
They take the same amount of money as other console makers and the store cut is completely unrelated to what Nintendo’s lawyers do which is the actual topic here.
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Another_earthling@lemmy.world 14 hours agoI’m not sure if it is. Steam takes a lot of money for their service, which is a problem.
And you can only play steam games, which is fair if you compare it to other consoles like the switch, xbox or PS5, but it’s still sad.
woelkchen@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Another_earthling@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
[deleted]woelkchen@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
This isn’t a good argument, right?
The topic is Nintendo who make a handheld console and unless CD Project make a GOGBoy with a bespoke SteamOS-like “console OS”, yet another storefront for Windows PCs is hardly an actual alternative.
I also though of them because they recently improved their subscriber agreement (apparently not for selfless reasons but still an improvement esp. in the light of what Nintendo is currently doing).
Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 14 hours ago
I don’t own a deck, but i know it’s way more then JUST a steam game player.
Another_earthling@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
My fault, I watched a review where it was said that you can only play steam games, but I see that this isn’t true. You can indeed play all your PC games or whatever
Gaspar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 hours ago
Not that you need to use special tools. SteamOS is built on Arch so you can just… y’know, install shit on there.
Another_earthling@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Thx, I did not know about this one
systemglitch@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Steam getting a cut isn’t a problem, it’s a well deserved rewsrd.
Another_earthling@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
I wonder why you think that way? Do you know how high their cut is?
ggppjj@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
I’ll give my own experience as a Steam customer and aspiring game dev:
I’ve never had a problem with Steam that wasn’t quickly and satisfactorily resolved. Usually, in ways that go above and beyond Valve’s stated responsibilities. They have been quick to respond to the two hardware tickets I’ve raised over the years of owning a Steam controller, two Steam Links, a Valve Index, and my own Steam Deck.
In the many years that I’ve used all flavors of Linux and installed all manner of native games and non-native games, it has only been in the last 4 or 5 years that the process has become, in my own experience, painless enough for me to not only consider suggesting other less technical people I know to try Linux, but to enthusiastically recommend it. They were the strongest single driving force I am aware of in bringing day-ome mass-market release games to Linux.
I have, over the years of my dealing with them, come to believe that money spent towards Valve is materially making my life better in ways that just playing games through Steam doesn’t fully encapsulate.
They provide development assistance and funds for open source projects in a way that truly gives back to the projects they work with, their company is run in a way that I find personally satisfying and aspirational, their leadership feels like they’re maintaining their relevance in the industry instead of being disconnected money-men…
I respect their decisions enough to consider their cut reasonable as compared to the services they provide both directly and indirectly to the PC gaming industry as a whole.
a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 hours ago
My Steam Deck has a 512GiB SD card full of pirated games using lutris and sega genesis and nintendo ds roms on it. it is more comfortable to just buy stuff and play, which i do with titles that are worth it (thats the internal memory for), but you are not limited in any way (except that it has to work on linux)
woelkchen@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
My Steam Deck has a 512GiB SD card full of legally backed up games
FTFY 😁
a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 hours ago
to be fair, most of those “backups” are played once, if they suck they get thrown off instantly and if they are good they stay until the price point in the store doesn’t pain me anymore. so it’s really just a temporally displaced backup, you are right :-)
amongstthetrees@lemmy.ml 13 hours ago
You can still install other game stores such as Epic or GOG and add games to the SteamOS gaming mode. Autoflatpak also works for that as well. I don’t have the steam copy of FFXIV but no issue, I added it to my library without issue.
MrQuallzin@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
You can play any games you want, though? Throw an emulator on there and play all your old games. Install non-steam games, add them to Steam using its very easy to use “Add a non-Steam game” button, and play as normal.
Heck, if you don’t like Linux you can just install Windows on the thing.
Steam takes a lot of money and then turns around and invests it into the gaming community.
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 13 hours ago
They also use that money to pay their employees more than the industry average and to make their owner a billionaire that owns a yacht collection. They could 100% afford to take a smaller cut with only Gabe “feeling the impact”.
Another_earthling@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
I saw a review where it was said that you can only play steam games, but I just looked it up and apparently you can play all the other games as well by simply adding them or launching other launchers…
Steam invest’s into the gaming community? Do you have any source for that so that I can read about that?
AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 13 hours ago
They’re pretty much the entire reason gaming on Linux is as active as it is today.
Another_earthling@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
archonet@lemy.lol 13 hours ago
Yeah nah, I have a Steam Deck, and it’s literally just a PC in the form factor of a Switch. It has a BIOS menu, you can install Windows on it (but you really shouldn’t), you can install a different flavor of Linux (I recommend Bazzite) – it’s like any other PC, just merged with a controller. I’m even able to install and play pirated Windows games through Proton, more or less fine, though you have to work for it a bit more.
and just to gush a bit more: the Deck is the only thing I can remember pre-ordering in the last 10 years and being genuinely happy that I did.
BlueSquid0741@lemmy.sdf.org 9 hours ago
And add to that the story behind DXVK, which was the turning point around 2018 for Linux gaming. Valve hired the guy who created it, so they could develop it professionally instead of as a hobbyist. With it remaining open source and free.
Yes, they do it because it helped them achieve what they wanted. But they don’t lock it down and they work with a lot of OSS which is then upstreamed.