That’s the next executive’s problem. These executives will jump ship with their golden parachutes before any of that affects them.
Comment on Amazon tech workers leaving for other jobs in response to return to office mandate
orclev@lemmy.world 1 day agoQuality programmers are a finite resource. Amazon chewed through the entire unskilled labor market with their warehouses and then struggled to find employees to meet their labor needs. If they try the same stunt with skilled labor they’re in for a very rude awakening. They’ll be able to find people, but only for well above market rates. They’re highly likely to find in the long run it would have been much cheaper to hang onto the people they already had.
greenskye@lemm.ee 1 day ago
Jrockwar@feddit.uk 1 day ago
Well then bring it on. If feels too big to fail, but if (hypothetically) Amazon were to go under, the world would be a better place.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Quality programmers
Bold of you to think that’s what they want.
Kalysta@lemm.ee 1 day ago
They may not want them, but with how many people are switching to things like AWS, they may find they need them.
And it will ultimately cost them more to find new people when they realize that they’re pissing off their customers with their poor new hires.
I will be happy to watch them squirm when they come to this realization. Karma is a bitch, Amazon.
Sinuhe@lemmy.world 1 day ago
An awakening would mean they would analyze and understand the situation. They won’t. Amazon has and probably always had a bullish “my way or the highway” attitude - ask people what they think, pretend you care, then ignore everything they might say. Upper managers make decisions uniquely based off costs and short term vision, and are never held accountable for their consequences. I worked there for years and you really can’t imagine how bad the work culture is there, whatever you have in mine is worse in reality
jj4211@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Problem is for a company like Amazon, even if the brain drain will result in obviously inferior customer experience, it could take years before that happens and for it to be recognized and for the business results suffer for it. In the meantime, bigger margins and restricted stock matures and they can get their money now.
Particularly with business clients, like AWS customers, it will take a huge amount of obvious screwups before those clients are willing to undertake the active effort of leaving.
0x0@programming.dev 1 day ago
in the long run
That’s a foreign concept for management, they only see one quarter at a time.
jj4211@lemmy.world 1 day ago
No, they see further than that. Sometimes their restricted stock takes a whole year to be released!
omarfw@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The whole problem with companies like Amazon is that hardly anyone in charge of them seems to care about long term sustainability. They all just invest enough effort to squeeze out some short term profits, earn their bonuses and then leave for another company to do it all again. Nobody is interested in sustainability because there is no incentive to. They’re playing hot potato with the collapse of the company.
WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Now expand that to the entire planetary economy. Unsustainable short term gains is the entire industrial revolution.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
We kicked “this quarter” thinking into high gear when Nixon permanently increased inflation.
Wanderer@lemm.ee 1 day ago
There has been efficiency gains throughout. Capitalism is amazing for that, far better than other systems.
The problem is too many people. If standard of living is to increase then the resource requirement is due to massive unsustainable population growth.
That and the fact the public hate externalities and don’t want them used at all never mind aggressively.
WoodScientist@lemmy.world 1 day ago
They’re both important. And crucially, people in developed countries use a lot more resources than those in undeveloped countries. Just look at the resource utilization of our richest people. We have billionaires operating private rocket companies! If somehow, say due to really really good automation, orbital rockets could be made cheap enough for the average person to afford, we would have average middle class people regularly launching rockets into space and taking private trips to the Moon. Just staggering levels of resource use. If we could build and maintain homes very cheaply due to advanced robotics, the average person would live in a private skyscraper if they could afford it. Imagine the average suburban lot, except with a tower built on it 100 stories tall. If it was cheap enough to build and maintain that sort of thing, that absolutely would become the norm.
circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 1 day ago
Amazon is not at all alone in this. Much of 2024 capitalism, at least within the tech space, works like this pretty much everywhere.
omarfw@lemmy.world 1 day ago
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