Comment on Google CEO: If an AI bubble pops, no one is getting out clean

• MrSmith@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  “Privileged” lol.

  If you couldn’t make a poem before “AI”, you still can’t make a poem now.

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  • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Do you have another retort besides “lol”? Spending any amount of time not dedicated to earning skills guaranteed to make money is a risk most of us can’t take.

    You still can’t make a poem now

    Yeah and why would I need to? If I was feeling creative and had an idea for one or needed an image, I could just get it made for me, free of charge, free of corpo influence or any strings attached. It’s a sweet deal.

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    • MrSmith@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Spending the amount of time required to produce professional art when an income isn’t directly guaranteed is a risk most of us can’t take, FYI.

      Because you don’t care about making art, so you choose comfort and financial safety. It has nothing to do with “Privilege”.

      You’re talking about outsourcing art, but then complain about who actually make art.

      Art isn’t output/result. That’s exactly what you’re getting from your gen slop.

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      • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Because you don’t care about making art, so you choose comfort and financial safety.

        Yeah, I choose to eat, so do you, evidently.

        But my choices on how I earn that bread were more limited than yours, again - evidently.

        Beyond that, I choose not to make assumptions about you or your life like you’ve done with mine.

        Also lol “comfort and financial safety”. No. Not for most people in most of this world. It’s more like survival vs not survival.

        So how does this have nothing to do with privilege? It literally is what privilege is.

        Telling poors to learn art is like telling someone to bet everything on starting a business. It’s a good idea only if you’re rich, because if you fail - and to learn you must fail sometimes - you can try again, but the working class doesn’t get the luxury of second chances.

        You’re talking about outsourcing art, but then complain about who actually make art.

        No, I’m talking about generating art from a prompt, I have no issuea with people who make art obviously, as long as they don’t have an issue with those who lack the resources to develop the skills and instead use AI to put their ideas into action or polish existing ones.

        If you’d like to change my mind, show me a few professionally successful present-day working class artists.

        This means they:

        1. Make most of their income from their work
        2. Most active period this or past decade and they are no older than 40.
        3. Working class background, so no artists in family at all, no industry connections they didn’t make themselves, no nepotism etc.

        Also lol, of course I care about making art, why else would I be even talking about it, much less pointing out that generative AI accidentally or not - corrects a class injustice?

        If I saw no value in making art, why would I ever consider it an injustice that the working class cannot enjoy it?

        I make music in my spare time whenever I can and have for years, and no I don’t and would never use any generative AI tools for the music itself, nor do I even sample any other music, and I think I’ve even improved at it somewhat despite a lack of basically any education on the subject matter beyond a few guides and YouTube videos on music theory here and there. It’s a highly rewarding hobby.

        Realistically though, that ‘whenever’ is simply not enough time to create anything professional and polished enough for me to sell and for it to appeal to anyone besides myself and whatever loved one is unfortunate enough to be subjected to it.

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