Submitted 7 months ago by Uranium3006@kbin.social to energy@slrpnk.net
A community turns on itself over the aptly named Mammoth solar project, a planned $1.5bn power field nearly the size of Manhattan
I feel like that’s too many in one area? Don’t you have to be worried about the refraction from these? I remember a story of birds getting fried flying over a solar field in the desert, not sure if that would be the same case
Maybe with a solar concentrating array, but these are photovoltaics are they not? So shouldn’t be a problem. I suspect this is just your typical nimby backlash to any large project. There’s plenty of that where I live too, alas.
A solar farm has got to be the least disruptive power generation method (especially if combined with agrovoltaics). I really don’t see how you could be against it.
They aren’t in one area. Midway through the article, there’s a diagram showing the actual areas, many of them are non-contiguous. It isn’t a monolithic block.
regarding your edit: I think You’re being downvoted for repeating talking points addressed in the article itself. Also, it’s … ignorant. If large solar farms routinely fried birds, why do almost all countries routinely build solar farms? Why do particularly German households continue to deck out their roofs and railings with solar modules? How exactly even would a solar module fry a bird, seeing as how it’s surface is made from glass - you know, like a window.
The bird frying thing is a exception to concentrated solar power arrays , which was the name suggests concentrate solar rays in order to heat up a buffer medium to several thousand degrees.
Seriously, calling me ignorant when I’m literally asking questions. When I’m genuinely curious if this would cause a similar issue.
So fucking sick of how toxic this platform is. No leeway to have an actual discussion or curiosity. Always people looking for a fight and acting superior.
the bird issues in the desert were probably unique to the ivanpah test generators that focus a large numbers of mirrors at a single point to heat a molten salt powered generator. The idea behind them is the molten salt retains the heat and can be used to continue power generation throughout the night as well as the day.
The fact that feature isn't seen as valuable makes solar power look deeply unserious.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
She has carved out a comfortable life in a sprawling mansion set on 10 acres (four hectares) of land, just outside the city of Lafayette, and is known locally for her donations to medical research and her small fleet of deluxe cars with personalized license plates.
The opponents of the solar project, a $1.5bn venture appropriately called Mammoth that is set to span an area almost as large as Manhattan, say they are defying an egregious assault on time-honored farming traditions and are standing up to a newcomer that threatens to warp their pastoral way of life with Chinese-made technology.
The ongoing fight is a sobering reminder of how Biden’s ambitions for a mass transition to renewables, aimed at averting the worst ravages of the climate crisis, will in significant part be decided by the vagaries and veto points of thousands of local officials, county boards and Connie Ehrlich-style opposition across the US.
America’s corn belt, which stretches from Indiana to Nebraska, produces a fifth of the world’s maize, a stunning feat of agricultural might that has deforested large areas, stripped away topsoil and made the land, by one measure, 48 times more toxic than it was 25 years ago.
The Mammoth project – which will generate 1.3 gigawatts of renewable energy, enough to power more than 200,000 households annually in coal-dependent Indiana – is split into three distinct areas encompassing dozens of landowners, which looks on a map like a collection of Jenga blocks scattered on to the landscape.
“As a farmer I take great pride in the beautiful land that God has blessed us with and believe it should stay to be used to grow crops.” Tiede warned that property values would decline if solar arrived – there is somewhat threadbare evidence of this – and raised the spectre of a disastrous fire.
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Stalbaum, the head of the board of zoning appeals, said while most people in the county are either supportive or apathetic about Mammoth, a faction of people are so outraged they have taken to following and videoing him and other members of the board, or idling in cars outside their homes.
Anonymous phone calls, meanwhile, were made to a school where Stalbaum was previously a teacher to cryptically warn that he was not suited to be around children, he said. On Facebook, supporters of the project have been called “roaches” and “traitors” and, in one instance, seemingly compared to Adolf Hitler. “I can only imagine how intimidating he is around children!!” one poster wrote about Stalbaum.
reddig33@lemmy.world 7 months ago
A lot of crop land is perfect for this sort of thing. They’re finding that low ground crops do really well near solar panels. Leaving money on the table by not double purposing the land.
wired.com/…/growing-crops-under-solar-panels-now-…
Also not sure why anyone would be resistant to turn empty unused pasture into solar farms. Other than astroturfing by fossil fuel companies.
cogman@lemmy.world 7 months ago
The main reason to not farm between solar panels is irrigation and harvesting. Modem farms tend to rely on big equipment to accomplish those sorts of tasks.
Now, with giant arrays of power production, you could theoretically make a rail system with an electric motor/s running the farm equipment up and down the rails. That would be custom equipment (Though it could be standardized). The irrigation would still be a challenge. Pivot irrigation works so well because it’s a single tube carrying all the water. That makes for much lower maintenance. I’m not sure how you could get similar maintenance with panels. The naive approach would be tubing carrying water under all the panels. That, however, would frequently clog requiring someone to constantly go around fixing nozzles and plugged pipes.
clover@slrpnk.net 7 months ago
Seems like a great space to rewild to allow pollinators to repopulate.
cooljacob204@kbin.social 7 months ago
Can this really scale up though? Large farms have equally large tractors.
reddig33@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Depends on the crop. See the linked wired article for more info. Also robots are now being used to pick both crops and weeds. They don’t take up as much room as tractors.