Alaska flight incident reveals another feature Boeing didn’t inform pilots about - Federal investigators said that Boeing didn’t make pilots aware that when a plane rapidly depressurizes, the cockp...

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• originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Federal investigators said that Boeing didn’t make pilots aware that when a plane rapidly depressurizes, the cockpit door will fly open.

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  • Darorad@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Not concerning at all, pilots aren’t important to a plane.

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    • pineapplelover@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah we don’t need them when we’ve got autopilot.

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  • paddirn@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That’s on a need-to-know-basis, why would pilots ever need that information? /s

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• solrize@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I had thought that since the 2001 hijackings it has been basically impossible to open the cockpit doors during flight, except from the inside. On El Al planes I’d heard it was impossible period, so hijackers couldn’t threaten their way in, but US carriers didn’t want to do that because it means the cockpit needs its own lavatory, displacing a few passenger seats.

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  • Shadow@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    In the case of an explosive decompression, you can’t have that wall trying to resist the pressure difference. It’ll blow in a horrible way and probably destroy a ton of circuitry / wiring.

    It needs to fail open like this, that design makes sense. The pilots should have been informed though.

    An attacker could probably leverage that though to get into the cockpit.

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    • solrize@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If that design is necessary it has presumably always been like that on every pressurized plane ever built. So it shouldn’t have been a surprise. But, some vents should be able to equalize the pressure without opening the door.

      ISTR hearing that El Al planes had separate entrances for the cockpit and passenger compartment so there was no way to enter or leave the cockpit except on the ground. No door, just a reinforced wall. But maybe that was a post-911 urban legend.

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    • uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      As per pre-911 we just may need to discourage hijackers from attacking planes through other vectors, not that the TSA is an actual deterrent. It’s difficult to believe our current measures take terrorism seriously.

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  • MsPenguinette@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Guess that wasn’t good enough

    In June, the FAA announced it will require a secondary barrier between the passenger cabin and cockpit of new commercial planes that are manufactured starting in the summer of 2025.

    That was at the end of the article. Not sure why but that pisses me off. Probably cause it seems purely like an act based out of fear rathe than in response to any threat/weakness

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    • poopkins@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Seems somebody watched Hijack on Apple TV+ and decided to draft a directive.

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  • CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The problem with locking cockpits is that is that it’s perfect for an evil or very sick pilot.

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    • deegeese@sopuli.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanwings_Flight_9525

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    • solrize@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      “I’m not trapped in here with you. You’re trapped in here with ME.”

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    • exu@feditown.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I think some airlines require a pilot to switch with one of the board crew when they leave the cockpit.

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  • AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    US carriers didn’t want to do that because it means the cockpit needs its own lavatory, displacing a few passenger seats.

    Did they say that to the FAA?

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• cerement@slrpnk.net ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  not like the Boeing 737 Max has had issues before or anything worrisome …

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  • AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The article says that:

    Homendy’s revelation echoes criticism heaped on Boeing during earlier probes of another in the 737 MAX line of planes, the MAX 8, in which pilots said they were not properly trained on a flight control system on board the plane that was implicated in two deadly crashes overseas. In 2020, pilots were required to undergo new simulator training and training for erroneous angle of attack sensor malfunctions as part of the plan to put the 737 MAX back into service.

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    • cerement@slrpnk.net ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      training for erroneous angle of attack sensor malfunctions

      the sticky note keeps falling off …

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• Chickenstalker@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Boeing merging with McDonnald™ Douglas was a mistake.

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• fubarx@lemmy.ml ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Who in the 9/11 came up with this algorithm?

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• Cornpop@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I mean I doubt Boeing knew this would happen.

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• DirigibleProtein@aussie.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Yet another post where they tried to fit the entire article on the title

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