Elizabeth Warren tried to convince AOC not to endorse Bernie Sanders in 2020 by compiling top Sanders backers' mean tweets: book

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• Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Remember when Bernie would have wound up in the lead as far as delegates had Elizabeth conceded hers when pulling out? I remember when Elizabeth led us to a trump presidency by bending the knee and letting the nonviable Hillary win the nomination.

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  • givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Still think she was just a “useful idiot” in that primary.

    As soon as she brought on Clinton’s campaign people, she stopped promoting herself and focused solely on tearing Bernie down.

    I don’t know if she was dumb enough to think it would work, or if she took one of those deals and was going to get a cabinet position if Clinton won.

    But there was big shift in her campaign and even her personal behavior out of nowhere, something happened for that big of a change.

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    • themeatbridge@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      She 100% sold out to Clinton. The why of it is between Warren and Clinton, and we’ll probably never know.

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  • ChicoSuave@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Warren was always the poison pill to split progressives in the primaries and force the mainstream candidate to become Hillary. When Warren backed out and Bernie still surged ahead, Michael Bloomberg paid $500M to run an interference campaign built on obnoxious memes for a weekend on order to derail the news and momentum Bernie was gaining.

    There is a concerted, focused effort by internal people of the D party that are helping push a business facing conservative narrative into both parties and Bernie seriously causes fear that citizens might get the power back from big money. Hillary was an terrible candidate pitched by arrogant people hoping to give the masses only bad choices. If an actual good choice ran, it would undermine the democracy killing dead lock caused by voting for the lesser of two evils. No progressive will ever get a chance because boomers have poisoned America to be greedy, self centered, and uncaring.

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  • doublejay1999@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Nothing unites and mobilises establishment power more than the prospect of electing a socialist.

    The odd fascist can slip through, but never ever a socialist.

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• Voyajer@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Not this Bernie bro shit again

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  • krashmo@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah let’s all get psyched about Joe “nothing will fundamentally change” Biden.

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    • Fades@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m no Joe Biden fan but he has absolutely already brought fundamental change. To say otherwise is reductive as fuck.

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    • themeatbridge@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Assuming he wins, which we shouldn’t assume.

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    • Son_of_dad@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Nobody said anything about Biden. Why is it always one or the other with you guys? How bout maybe someone who isn’t an old, wealthy, white dinosaur, who isn’t unelectable? Why do Joe or Bernie have to be involved at all?

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  • Fridgeratr@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    YES this Bernie bro shit again. And forever. If the DNC didn’t sabotage him, we probably wouldn’t have had Trump

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    • Voyajer@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That is exactly what I meant…

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  • Psychodelic@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    L bait

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    • Voyajer@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      What?

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• WhyDoYouPersist@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  : book

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• Fades@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  She’s so fucking awful just step aside for fucks sake

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• Son_of_dad@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  At the end of the day, Bernie couldn’t even win his own party’s backing, that’s why he would have lost to Trump. Like it or not, and I do like his ideas, but Bernie is unelectable. You can give a million reasons why the democratic party refused to accept his, but if even the one side couldn’t accept him as a leader, why did you expect the entire country to?

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  • bionicjoey@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There was actually polling showing Bernie stood a better chance than Clinton versus Trump on the general election. Despite what you might think, he is actually far more popular with fence-sitters.

    The problem of course is that in order to compete in a general election, he had to first complete in a party primary, which the party was free to rig as much as they wanted.

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  • gaylord_fartmaster@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What does this even mean? You think if Bernie would have won the primary the DNC would have said, “actually, just go ahead and vote for Trump, we don’t really like this guy”? The RNC didn’t support Trump until he won the primary either, they were both considered anti-establishment candidates, which the powers that be hate more than anything.

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