Best VPS for gramps

Submitted ⁨⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨rambos@lemm.ee⁩ to ⁨selfhosted@lemmy.world⁩

Hello selfhosters,

I need recommendation for cheap VPS that I will use to host gramps only. Gramps is selfhosted app for building family tree.

I tested gramps in docker container on my home server and its awesome, check it out. My home server is not open to public (accessing it using wireguard only) and I would like to give access to some family members (3-4) for gramps. I thought its best to pay for cheap VPS and run gramps only to avoid any security issues on my home network.

I believe performance and storage requirements fit in any cheapest model, but not sure which VPS is the easiest to setup. I have my own domain from porkbun, but I have never set SSL certs properly before and I have never used VPS. I see this as a great opportunity to learn, but also to make some family members happy <3

I’m eying servercheap.com and it says in description “1 IPv4”, but then it offers “Add’l Ipv4 Addresses” for 9$. I’m bit lost here and I’m not even sure do I need IPv4 address. Maybe I can run duckdns or ddclient to avoid additional cost?

How is your experience with servercheap? Is there anything better for similar price?

Also, any tips for building server like that are appreciated. I was thinking Debian 11 + gramps in docker container since I’m familiar with that setup.

Cheers

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vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Also consider cloudflare tunnels. It’s really easy. You can deploy the tunnel software in a Sidecar container and then website goes brrrrrr.

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- rambos@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Do you mean cloudflare tunnels and hosting on my homelab? I have 40+ services running on my home server and feels like its best to isolate as much as possible since I don’t trust my security skills yet xD First time I hear about Sidecar, I’m gonna do some research thanks!
  
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  - vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    The capitalization was an accident. I just mean you deploy CF tunnel software in a separate container inside your application stack (I use docker compose, but you can use whatever) and basically forget about it.
    
    Security-wise the attack surface is relatively small, but only you know your threat model and risk appetite.
    
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aesir@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Considering the small audience and purpose, I would not have any problem using the always free offerings of either Oracle or Google (the latter especially if located in the US).

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- EngineerGaming@feddit.nl ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  AFAIK you’d still need to leave your card details to use free offers. No thanks, I’d rather pay $5 but in crypto.
  
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  - aesir@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    As you wish, indeed the only free offer without credit cards is the one of azure for students. In any case you are not anonymous.
    
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- rambos@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Oh thx, I didn’t think about free options
  
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tun@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I have a 5 USD per month VPS on Vultr.com

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- rambos@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Their price plan says there is 10GB version for 3.5$, but the cheapest one I could take is 5$ for 25GB. Still good, I took it and so far so good. Thx
  
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  - zorflieg@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I’ve had multiple $5 Vultr VPS’s for about 5 years for simple purposes and they’ve been reliable and performed well.
    
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  - tun@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    The pricing depends on the DC location (and other obvious factor). The one I have is in New Jersey (have to confirm) and 3.5 USD per month.
    
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2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

I’m eying servercheap.com and it says in description “1 IPv4”, but then it offers “Add’l Ipv4 Addresses” for 9$. I’m bit lost here and I’m not even sure do I need IPv4 address. Maybe I can run duckdns or ddclient to avoid additional cost?

You should have an IPv4 address unless you’re sure everyone who needs to access it has working IPv6 access or you don’t mind setting up 6to4/6in4 at the locations that don’t (or complain to ISPs until they fix it). The one should be fine.

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- rambos@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Thx,Ill stick with ipv4 then.
  
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thericcer@reddthat.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
So, I’ve done exactly this with gramps. I used a NUC running proxmox at my home.

I created a very simple https server with turnkey nginx running on the NUC proxmox instance. I host the gramps database exports there via a simple HTML page.

Tied it to a domain name and sent the link to my family, with instructions to install gramps and import the database.

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- rambos@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Thx for input. Do you not recommend running gramps as web service for some reason? Reading comments here it seems like desktop app is main way of using it and I wasn’t aware. Docker container is running fine, but looks like its missing some polish
  
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  - thericcer@reddthat.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I actually wasn’t aware that it could be run as a web service. I’d say do that.
    
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drudoo@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Isn’t gramps a desktop app? It would make more sense to use Webtrees when using a VPS, which can be accessed over the web with login.

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- rambos@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Im quite new into this, but my gramps can be accessed over web using login.
  
  Ill check webtrees thx
  
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Decronym@lemmy.decronym.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:

Fewer Letters	More Letters
CF	CloudFlare
HTTP	Hypertext Transfer Protocol, the Web
NUC	Next Unit of Computing brand of Intel small computers
SSL	Secure Sockets Layer, for transparent encryption
VPS	Virtual Private Server (opposed to shared hosting)
nginx	Popular HTTP server

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possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I honestly though you were talking about our grandpa

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ilickfrogs@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I’d recommend racknerd. Their black Friday pricing is available year round and they have super good annual pricing on some of their VPS options www.racknerd.com/BlackFriday/

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- rambos@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Wow thats cheap. I guess its fine to use racknerd even from Europe. I might get 1 year just because its cheap
  
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  - ilickfrogs@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Oh absolutely! I wouldn’t trust them with anything mission critical but for little projects here and there they’re absolutely amazing.
    
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clarth@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Check out ServerHunter

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DivisionResult@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
A good recomendations is AWS , after verifing your ID with a VCC, you should have 12 months of freetier products .

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plumbercraic@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I think a small linode is 12 bucks a month, and putting cloud flare in front it is free. Can add some s3 storage for a few more bucks too. They also have a free firewall you can use outside of the VMs.

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