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• breakfastburrito@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Fun fact: he wanted to study mice breeding but the church said no because it was lewd. If he had he probably wouldn’t have figured things out since mice genetics aren’t as simple as peas.

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  • Mothra@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’m wondering, how come studying mice breeding was considered lewd when humans had already been breeding a variety of livestock (and selecting traits at this) for thousands of years?

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    • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      presumably just status quo bias, we’ve always done this so that’s obviously fine, but this NEW thing is horrendous and must never be done

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    • ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      He was a monk, after all. Breeding mammals is not something that celibacy-bound people usually do.

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    • breakfastburrito@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I think it was just the idea of this friar watching mice fuck seemed pornographic in a way. I don’t think maintaining mice colony was the issue, it was the sex.

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  • SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Imagine being the person in charge. You all are bound to celibacy, so you’ve seen and heard hushed tales of all kinds of …interesting side effects probably from living in that state for years.

    This guy walks in and makes his sales pitch. He wants to keep mice and have them get it on. Mostly under his personal observation. For science. Totally not a odd perversion, promise.

    I would have my doubts too!

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  • ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    He also kept bees in the monastery garden and tried to do experiments on them but it wasn’t known back then that bees mate high in the air, so his attempts to breed them were futile. Other monks were often stung or annoyed by the nasty bees so he quit beekeeping.

    Source: Mathematics of Life by Ian Stewart. I also visited his museum on Mendel Square, Brno.

    Once Upon a Time… The Discoverers ep. 16 also mentioned that the monks were annoyed at eating peas too often but I forgot to ask at the museum.

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• HubertManne@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Beyond his actual discovery his methodology really solidified the scientific method.

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  • ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yes but he likely forged some data. Statistics show a high probability of his pea counts with a clear 3:1 phenome split being too good to be true.

    Source: Mathematics of Life by Ian Stewart. I also visited his museum on Mendel Square, Brno.

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    • kadu@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      He also discarded a lot of data that didn’t meet his proposed patterns.

      How do we know? Well, wouldn’t it be a nice coincidence if this motherfucker just casually randomly selected 13 different traits that follow simple dominance patterns - but none of the other dozens of traits that do not?

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• Xanthrax@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  When they said he was a friar in Bio, for some reason I thought he came from waaaaay earlier in history.

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  • WintLizard@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That is amazing! Im sad he never continued.

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    • ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      He tried to breed bees but failed, see one of my other comments. Also, he was a devout Christian priest and his findings were challenging his faith.

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    • ladicius@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Maybe he continued, and what he found out was too dangerous to tell the world? Where is that guy or gal now? What happened?

      And who the fuck cued the X-Files theme?

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  • ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Well, his research was very sound by modern standards, mostly adhering to the scientific method. It would be very untimely 200 or more years prior. His paper (even in its original form!) is understandable by any modern intelligent person who can read German cursive.

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• lugal@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  That sounds as if Darwin incorporated Mendel’s theory. He didn’t. It was much later that Mendel was rediscovered and combined with Darwinism

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• otarik@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  “Other biologists” except Wallace!

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• Nobody@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  That, or this version of the simulation got very, very lucky.

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