I’ll believe it when it’s actually in production. Toyota has been making claims about this for a long time now and it always seems to be “just a few years” away.
Toyota nears mass production of solid-state batteries
Submitted 11 months ago by bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works to technology@lemmy.world
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fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 11 months ago
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 11 months ago
That’s where I am, too. We’ve been hearing that fully practical electrification of transportation is Just Around The Corner! since the '90’s. I’m still waiting for it to actually happen.
But I’m ready. Bring it on already.
On the bright side, with several almost completely practical BEV’s on the market already we’re much closer than we’ve ever been.
frezik@midwest.social 11 months ago
Thing is, if you’re willing to go down to a Geo Metro type of car, BEVs would have been easily viable quite some time ago. Safety demands (for the passengers, not pedestrians) have made it impossible to remake anything like the Geo Metro, and general market trends have pushed cars even bigger and heavier. Meanwhile, we’ve increased pedestrian deaths with all these huge cars.
bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Yep, thankfully there’s more manufacturers trying to make it work. Samsung sounds promising
Other companies have also made progress recently. Chinese battery maker CATL revealed it was preparing to mass-produce its semi-solid batteries before the year’s end, while South Korea’s Samsung SDI has completed a fully automated pilot line for solid-state batteries.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 11 months ago
A Samsung car would have pop-up ads on the windshield
AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Toyota president Koji Sato also admitted that production volumes of solid-state batteries were likely to be small when the company rolls them out in electric vehicles as early as 2027. “I think the most important thing at the moment is to put out [the solid-state batteries] into the world and we will consider expansion in volume from there,” he said.
SOOOOO not really close… another press release hyping this up. How small is SMALL? Hundreds?
They clearly are still having trouble scaling production of this technology. It has EXISTED for some time but isn’t of use to cars if they can’t make hundreds of thousands of them.
metaStatic@kbin.social 11 months ago
they're using the promise of better batteries to make people reconsider buying full electric vehicles now. I expect it to be exactly like fusion, always a few years away.
Bjornir@programming.dev 11 months ago
Commercial fusion is not a few years away, and I’ve never seen the claim apart from deranged individuals on Twitter. If everything goes to plan, commercial fusion won’t be here for a few decades.
What the claim may have been is experimental fusion, which does exist right now, we have generated power using fusion, and we even made more power than we put into it recently. It’s moving, but it’s slow, as planned for the last few decades.
drdabbles@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Not even a press release, but an FT post. Which is worth less than a press release somehow.
sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
kelseybcool@lemmy.world 11 months ago
AA5B@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Wtf is this linked to? A good dozen tries and I can’t pass the captcha? Am I just a sentient robot who is unaware or this a mechanical Turk thing where I’m helping some bot pass l
bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Just archive.ph?
sky@codesink.io 11 months ago
Do you use Cloudflare DNS (1.1.1.1)? They block it because they remove some trackable information from requests.
Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 11 months ago
That’s fucking stupid. But yes, I had the same problem.
AA5B@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Not intentionally, but I’m on iOS which ma becrelevant
millifoo@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Same here - not sure if this is a cloudflare problem, but i’ve been getting these more and more. I’m on a Mac, I’m pretty darn sure I don’t have a virus, so I don’t know what’s going on.
Never did get to the article, btw.
TvanBuuren@feddit.nl 11 months ago
Someone enlighten me: what is a non-solid-state battery?
Kazumara@feddit.de 11 months ago
One with a fluid electrolyte. That includes current Lithium-Ion and Lithium-Polymer batteries, as well as the older Nickle-Metal Hydride and Lead-Acid batteries.
bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
A lithium-ion battery is composed of cathode, anode, separator and electrolyte. Lithium-ion batteries for smartphones, power tools and EVs uses liquid electrolyte solution. On the other hand, a solid-state battery uses solid electrolyte, not liquid.
TvanBuuren@feddit.nl 11 months ago
I was unaware that a lithium battery was liquid.
TIL, thank you, kind Lemmer.
NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Problems include the extreme sensitivity of the batteries to moisture and oxygen, as well as the mechanical pressure needed to hold them together
Not quite the ideal thing to have in a real world car. For example, what happens after a little accident leaves an opening in the hull of such a battery?
RanchOnPancakes@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Very interested to see what things look like not when it releases but a few years after.
Usernameblankface@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Wake me when it happens
drdabbles@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Right, nearing mass production is what we call it when their PR department announced just a couple weeks ago that they’re delaying the project until 2025, and they’ve been working on it for a decade.
These posts need to stop. Their only purpose is to lead gullible people on while the company desperately wishes for a magical fix to all their problems.