Why do all these companies developing privatised software use the word "Open"? Real question.

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• fubo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Some of these names (like OpenVMS) are from before the term “open source software” was coined (which was in 1998). They refer instead to “open systems”, meaning computer systems with published specifications, interoperable hardware, portable software, etc. – things that might seem like obvious choices now, but were not in early business computing.

  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_system_(computing)

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  • 995a3c3c3c3c2424@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah, OpenBSD predates “open source” by a few years and some people actually found the name weird at the time because there was such a strong association with “Open” being used to mean things like “controlled by an industry consortium rather than a single company”.

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    • lemmyvore@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      There is a joke in one of the BOFH episodes (Bastard Operator from Hell for those unfamiliar, look it up if you don’t know it, it’s worth it) that went:

      “So I tell him, ‘you can’t port Debian to a car computer, it’s not an open system ha ha ha ha’”

      The joke was not about the car computer.

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  • retiolus@lemmy.cat ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Thak makes sense, thank you!

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  • vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    things that might seem like obvious choices now

    Not anymore.

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    • fubo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Even a heavily proprietary system like iOS is much more of an “open system” in this sense than old mainframes. It uses standard networking protocols, supports programming languages that have published specifications, third-party hardware exists …

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• db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The same reason that USA calls their brand of jingoism “freedom”

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  • aniki@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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    • SoylentBlake@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The department of defense instead of the war department

      Land of the free ≠ most jailed population on the planet…by faaaar

      Department of Justice…as much as you can afford anyway

      Protect and Serve…they kill more Americans than any gang, steal more from Americans then all other theft combined and only protect the interests of rich white shareholders. To the point of guarding a dumpster full of food in the middle of a pandemic.

      It’s already been ruled that once something is thrown away, the precious party has relinquished rights to it so they kept ppl away from food for funsies

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• originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  its clearly a marketing gimmick. to lend credibility to their products by stealing the goodwill associated the open source initiatives.

  its a marketing trick for geeks. these people are jerks.

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• baatliwala@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  OpenAI was supposed to make AI R&D basically open for all, but they became closed after they realised how fucking good GPT can be. It’s understandable tbh but sad.

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  • PlexSheep@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    They betrayed their core values. Hypocrites to me.

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    • douglasg14b@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That’s what money’ll do to ya.

      If I was presented with billions of dollars, I too would probably close source my software.

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  • Taringano@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    In an interview Sam altman said "they realise the amount of money they needed would never come only from donations.

    It’s still kind of a foundation, he mentioned it in the Lex Friedman podcast.

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• Pons_Aelius@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Because they can and the only ethics a company has are those imposed by laws.

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• smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Also more things now call themselfs “open source” even not being like that. Examples: AnyType, FUTO Voice, Llama AI

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  • Devgard@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’m pretty sure Anytype is finally open sourcing their code after years of it being in alpha though?

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    • smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Source is available to the public under their own custom licence, but you cannot use it commercially. Server side is closed. So you just know there is no malware inside and you can propose a bugfix, that’s not enough to be open source, yet they misleading call it that.

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    • projectmoon@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They had opened sourced part of, but not all of it.

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• 3l3s3@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Open your wallet and fill ours

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• ZILtoid1991@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Then wait until you learn how Creative bought up OpenAL (the audio answer to OpenGL and having to work with multiple audio extensions), and made it closed source...

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• Fades@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Marketing, literally NOTHING but marketing motivates this shit

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• Anamana@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I mean OpenAI used to be opensource with older models or?

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  • r00ty@kbin.life ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    So ExOpenAI?

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    • filister@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They have for example open sourced whisper, which is a great tool to create transcriptions. I think the whole idea behind OpenAI was to open AI research to the wider public making their models open source, and funnily enough was trying to break the hegemony of corporations like Google, Amazon, Meta, etc. but they became victims of their own success and decided to turn into those who they were supposed to fight.

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    • Anamana@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Kinda lol

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• edgemaster72@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  (American perspective) Because companies are not only allowed to deceive the public for their benefit, it’s expected and encouraged.

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• Aux@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  OpenAI is used for two companies under one umbrella - OpenAI a non-profit and OpenAI a for profit companies. Basically OpenAI non-profit does research and published it publicly, then OpenAI for profit adds bells and whistles and sells it to recoup costs.

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  • aniki@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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    • Nighed@sffa.community ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      …well, are they publishing the research still or not?

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    • ThetaDev@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They do publish some open source software like Whisper TTS. Their core products are all proprietary though.

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    • NABDad@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      No one except apparently retiolus@lemmy.cat who asked the question.

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• 3arn0wl@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Pure speculation : the idea of open source sells. It’s more appealing than the alternative.

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  • Player2@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’m pretty sure someone like my parents has no idea what that even means, though I guess many of these companies might just be targeting younger people more likely to know

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    • 3arn0wl@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Surely the idea of open or free is always going to play better than closed, locked down and proprietary…? idk

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• TedJ70@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Because they’re OpenAssholes™

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• VantaBrandon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Capitalism is a hell of a drug

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• Deebster@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Reminds me of all those countries claiming to be democratic in their name like Democratic Republic of the Congo, Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (aka North Korea), etc.

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• grayman@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’ve found that they sometimes mean you can interact with an API instead of only via their interface.

  But it’s just a marketing term. Open gives the image of freedom and thus peace and happiness.

  Damn marketing departments.

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