MRW when I see Alex Kurtzman talking about how supportive Paramount+ is of Trek

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• Stamets@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  For real. Here’s another example.

  Discovery is going into it’s final season at the moment. It’s been announced that this was supposed to be the ‘Year of Discovery’ when it come to celebrating the show. Whether you like it or not, you cannot deny that without Discovery we would simply not have any of the other Trek we currently do. Everything spawned from the success of that reboot and it deserves celebration and praise. For those who don’t like it, that’s fine. It’ll be over soon. But let us celebrate us.

  Then comes NYCC yesterday. They start pumping out tons of news. Starfleet Academy will have Tilly and Tawny Newsome will be a writer! Section 31 show is still on the go! And then not a single fucking word about Discovery. No news about the new season despite the writers strike preventing the cast from promoting the show. No shots. No celebration. No fucking nothing.

  I’m getting extremely tired of Paramount+ pretending that they love Star Trek so much. Like… you’re a company. WE love Star Trek. You make horrifically insulting supershort animations that supposedly praise 50 years of Trek animation while actively ignoring your most recently animated show. Your a company trying to make a buck.

  If Paramount stopped trying to pretend they loved Trek so much then it wouldn’t feel so fucking insulting when they kick Trek to the curb the second they’re done with it.

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  • ValueSubtracted@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    And then not a single fucking word about Discovery. No news about the new season despite the writers strike preventing the cast from promoting the show. No shots. No celebration. No fucking nothing.

    I’ll give them a mild defense here - they did discuss Discovery, albeit briefly:

    “We have finished it. It will be airing early next year. It’s an incredibly satisfying ending to a show that is so near and dear to my heart. Sonequa Martin-Green gave the performance of her life. I think you guys are going to love it.”

    It’s very likely that they planned this panel to be non-WGA in the event that the writers’ strike hadn’t ended by the time of the convention, which would explain why the only panelist of note, besides Kurtzman himself, was Mike McMahan.

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  • Carlo@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah, that’s frustrating. I’m not personally a fan of Discovery, but I hope they step up and promote the last season like they’ve said they will. I feel like their publicity efforts have really been all over the map.

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  • StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I will add to that a Star Trek day without any Discovery celebration.

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• leave_it_blank@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I really tried getting into the new shows. I was so excited for Discovery, I even opened a bottle of good wine saved for a special occasion. And then it did not feel like Star Trek at all, it was dark, brutal, disturbing. I finally dropped out after season 2. Lower Decks was ok, but more of a parody than real Star Trek, with weird character choices. Strange New Worlds was interesting at first, but also with characters that did not feel like the professional Star Fleet personal I was used to. Prodigy I haven’t even started because I don’t really was in the mood up to today.

  I’m not excited when I read a headline like this, something that would be unthinkable a few years back. Let’s see what they are cranking out, maybe it’s something that has the old feeling again, good plots, good characters and that sense of wonder and optimism for example that TNG had. I haven’t given up hope.

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  • TWeaK@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Strange New Worlds was interesting at first, but also with characters that did not feel like the professional Star Fleet personal I was used to.

    SNW is set before TOS; of course they’re not going to be as professional as TNG, it was the early days. It compares well with TOS, but still isn’t without its flaws (eg musical episode).

    Discovery was indeed crap (in my opinion), it’s just a modern generic SciFi show with Star Trek branding. Lower Decks is only meant to be a bit of fun fan service, it turns the Starfleet goodie two shoes-ness up to 11, while pulling back on professionalism to turn it into a workplace comedy. I get the feeling you won’t like Prodigy either, it’s very much child oriented.

    However I think you should reconsider your expectations. We’re not going to get another TNG 30 years after that show, expecting something the same but new is only going to be disappointing. I’d recommended giving SNW another go, and also maybe catching up with Lower Decks ahead of the SNW crossover episode.

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    • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      still isn’t without its flaws (eg musical episode)

      I don’t know why you would point to the best episode so far when talking about flaws…

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    • leave_it_blank@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The problem with professionalism is that they are people on a star ship, but they often act childish or like teenagers. TOS was corny at times, but they acted like absolute professionals most of the time. In SNW I missed that, they were often super relaxed with a good joke on their lips in the face of eminent death. Or I remember when they hunt a poor underdeveloped guy through the ship and get him and making jokes after that. That was definitely the “WTF are they doing” moment for me that made it hard to enjoy.

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  • lugal@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    DIS got a lot better in the later seasons but if you don’t like any of the new shows, I doubt it’s your cup of tea either. It’s sad to hear this since I basically love old and new trek alike but each to their own. Some shows tried to catch the old spirit (like SNW) but you simply can’t produce an old episode now. I personally like it best when they explore new topics and new times but hopefully they will make a show for fans like you, too!

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  • HardlightCereal@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The Prodigy crew don’t feel like a proper Starfleet crew, and that’s because they’re literally children. They are 100% kids with the potential and the drive to grow into great Starfleet officers, and the show is fundamentally about that fact.

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• ValueSubtracted@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  no not like that

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• gnuplusmatt@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  keep in mind Prodigy was produced by nickelodeon and only distributed on Paramount+ - for accounting purposes they are all separate entities - Paramount, CBS, Paramount+, Nickelodeon etc even if they are all owned by ViacomCBS

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  • USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Paramount+ is still the entity that decided to cancel the series and remove it from their platform less than a year after advertising themselves as being the home to “Every Series. Every Episode.”

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    • gnuplusmatt@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      they were also at one point home of all the movies at one point and that changes every few months, and by region. Accountants going to Accountant

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  • ValueSubtracted@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Okay, but Paramount+ doesn’t directly produce any of the shows.

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    • gnuplusmatt@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      CBS Studios produces most of them and then Paramount+ holds the distribution rights in most cases

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  • Jaccident@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Not just accounting purposes. The commissioning producers are totally separate, decision making is largely devolved down to the separate channels to encourage audience awareness.

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• Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I wish Paramount+ was supportive of itself, though. Every time I’ve tried to use it, specifically to watch Trek, the media is always unavailable. I’m not paying for it until I can actually utilize it during one of their free trial weeks so I know I’m not just wasting my fucking money.

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  • FordPrefect@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If you think that’s rough, try watching CBS Sunday Morning.
    I swear to god, that free show that airs on broadcast TV, must be one of the hardest currently running shows to stream.

    Well, that & “Shaka Ilembe”.

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• possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I don’t even bother with streaming services. I’ll just buy star trek Picard on a physical disk

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  • USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That would be great, but unfortunately they’re not going to produce new Trek for direct to physical media.

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    • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They do though. You can pickup at your local store

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