Submitted 1 year ago by Salamendacious@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
Google teamed up with Samsung once again to build the Tensor G3, the chipset that powers the new Pixel 8 and Pixel 8 Pro. It comes out of Samsung’s 4nm foundries and features a 9-core CPU (1x Cortex-X3 + 4x A715 + 4x A510) and an ARM Mali-G715 GPU.
Woah, so that’s nearly half the FPS compared to SD8Gen2, and about 3/4th of Gen1. :/
Funny how one of the criticisms against the Xiaomi 13T Pro I posted about a few days ago was the SOC.
I’ve never heard anybody complain about the SOC in Pixel phones.
Yet the Dimensity 9200+ SOC in the Xiaomi 13T Pro is way faster and more efficient than Tensor G2 in the Pixel 7, and remains faster and more efficient than Tensor G3 in the Pixel 8. In fact it’s only beat by Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 on Android.
“except for the SOC” lemmy.world/post/6513457 Top comment, 9 upvotes?
No one comments about the way weaker SOC for the Pixel phone?!?!
There are a multitude of reasons I personally wouldn't buy a Xiaomi, most notable of which is data security concerns. But the SOC performance isn't one of them.
I wonder if you got hit with a little corporate astroturfing? I doubt there are many corps on Lemmy yet but if your post is findable by a search engine it's only a matter of time before they arrive, if they haven't already.
Yes I understand some may have security concerns, we debated that too, that’s not the point here. The point was specifically the criticism of the SOC, which IMO is absolutely stellar.
I’m surprised there is absolutely zero criticism in a major thread on the Pixel 8 here with 145 posts. When the Tensor chips are clearly worse on both speed and efficiency? Considering how much attention the issue got regarding the Xiaomi 13T Pro, despite it’s both cheaper and has a way better SOC.
Maybe astroturfing is an issue, but it is illegal in almost all countries, so I hope not.
Maybe bad perception? Mediatek for a long time produced a bunch of cheap chips. Kinda like if UniSoc produced a Snapdragon 8 G2 killer, I think plenty will be sceptical, me included.
Please just use snapdragon and I’ll buy a pixel
Why, what’s wrong with their chip - genuine question? Something can only get better through iterative design and refinement.
I don't care about gaming performance on a phone, but battery life in Pixel 7 have been worse than in competitors like Galaxy S23.
This Tensor G3 chip doesn’t even match the 2 years older Snapdragon 8 gen 1 from 2021.
There are cheaper phones with way better SOC like the new Dimensity 9200+ Which is both faster and more efficient.
The Pixel Phone is a cool phone in some ways, but the SOC absolutely isn’t on par with what other companies have. At best it would be ranked fourth after Apple, Qualcomm and Mediatek who are all way ahead.
They won’t. They used to do that prior to the 6. They are able to offer longer support and they claim more features (AI and camera mostly I think) this way.
Performance I don’t give a shit.
But efficiency I care a lot especially in a laptop. Much more on the phone.
Pixel 5 with a 3 year old mid range SoC can run android 14 UI at 90 FPS pretty much fine.
That’s a perspective I didn’t consider
Yeah so for Pixel 8 you just need a bit more for 120Hz instead of 90Hz
A different story is for gaming. But for mobile gaming I’m more a fan of Steam Deck or Nintendo Switch.
Efficiently does nothing? Could be worse.
You’re right it definitely isn’t exciting news though
Google really wrestles with either making the Pixel a flagship phone or a cheap and cheerful mass market model and it shows. Their last few attempts seem to end up with something that is a mushy pile of “okay”
Recently they’ve been making a pro, a regular, and an “A” version of their phones. I think pixel should be the premium line and they should alternate regular and pro models every other year. Then create a lower spec cheaper model, under new branding, that comes out every three years. Maybe bring back the Nexus line.
Buffaloaf@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Personally, I stopped caring about benchmarks years ago. Real world usability and, more importantly, battery life are what make or break a phone for me.
corey389@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I don’t really care about benchmark, however I care about modem specs and hardware and the 8 modem is definitely lacking.
coffinwood@feddit.de 1 year ago
Benchmarks could become interesting in seven years when the Pixel 8 will still get software support. Making this big promise and starting off with this mediocre SoC is either brave or…not very foreseeing.
That’s quite a bottleneck and efficiency can’t tackle every software challenge from here to the year 2030.
Wasn’t there already a feature or two that the “old” Pixel predecessor won’t receive?
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
I want a good GPU in my phone. I like playing games sometimes and generally keep my phones for many years. I don’t want a phone that turns into a toaster when I play TD6 on it.