How does the AIs even know what a Kirby is? Kirby is copyrighted and I doubt Microsoft got permission from Nintendo to include images of Kirby in their training data.
Users dodge A.I. filters to generate pictures of pop-culture characters performing terrorism
Submitted 11 months ago by cyu@sh.itjust.works to technology@lemmy.world
https://kotaku.com/microsoft-bing-ai-image-art-kirby-mario-9-11-nintendo-1850899895
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Fisk400@feddit.nu 11 months ago
BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Copyright law does not explicitly cover inclusion in a training data set, though that will be tested by a number of court cases currently underway.
Copyright historically is exactly what it says in its name: the right to copy or reproduce an image for commercial purposes. Because an AI doesn’t reproduce the images in its training data set, and because AI generation models do not include the image data of their training set, it’s not explicitly covered.
My personal opinion is that copyright law would need to be updated to cover the training data case, but the courts could circumvent that and declare it covered under existing law. That would be based on a misunderstanding of how image generation works, but courts don’t always necessarily act based on technical understanding.
Buttons@programming.dev 11 months ago
And if the courts rule in a way that limits US company’s ability to train AIs, then I hope they practice their shocked Picachu faces for when people start using AIs created by countries that don’t care about US law.
I_Clean_Here@lemmy.world 11 months ago
How does it “know” anything? Same for the Kirb Meister.
Fisk400@feddit.nu 11 months ago
Yes, that is the problem that I am highlighting with the question.
Also the people generating this isn’t writing “Kirby doing 9/11”. They are writing “Kirby sitting in a cockpit with two skyscrapers outside the window”
There are stock photos of all those things that you can buy but there is no legal stock photo assets of Kirby.
bioemerl@kbin.social 11 months ago
You shouldn't need permission to include images in training data.
Fisk400@feddit.nu 11 months ago
You should if you plan on making money on it. I assume that Microsoft does.
vector_zero@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Why not? If you feed the entirety of a given IP (say, every frame in every Star Wars film or show), you could train an AI to produce imagery derived exclusively from copyrighted material.
Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi 11 months ago
You raise a good point, but I really don’t care about Nintendo’s feelings.
Whirling_Cloudburst@lemmy.world 11 months ago
This is probably the most valid concern really. I remember people drawing Yogi the Bear wearing a gestapo uniform and other such absurdities back in high school art class. The only thing that has changed is that you don’t need the same level of skills to be an attention seeker in a place where the public can be found.
I’m more concerned about people making convincing false narratives on cable news than fictional characters doing things that are in very poor taste.
Hubi@feddit.de 11 months ago
DallE was intentionally trained to include a ton of pop culture and celebrities. Copyright laws are not ready to deal with these scenarios and the current approach of most companies is to offload the legal responsibility for generated images to their users.
Zoldyck@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Unofficial fan-made things perhaps?
Fisk400@feddit.nu 11 months ago
Nintendo still owns the trademark on those and the creator owns the copyright.
somape9743@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Let people have fun. Stop infecting everything with sjw agendas.
Eggyhead@kbin.social 11 months ago
I was on board, until you made it dumb.
RememberTheApollo@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Some people just want to watch the world burn.
Visstix@lemmy.world 11 months ago
The only thing that has changed is that it’s easier to alter images. Good luck avoiding copyrighted material online, with people posting self made stuff everywhere.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Oh sure, but I can’t have Godzilla and Hercule Poirot solve crimes together.
Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi 11 months ago
Wasps are too NSFW but a Disney-Pixar rendition of 9/11 is a-okay it seems.
(also fun to bump into you again after that thread lol)
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Thanks. And yes, I just don’t get it. Maybe I’m not using the right code words.