I’m looking to buy a new car within the next year. If it doesn’t offer Apple CarPlay, I won’t even bother looking at the car.
As some carmakers run from Apple CarPlay, Porsche embraces it
Submitted 1 year ago by fry@fry.gs to technology@lemmy.world
https://arstechnica.com/cars/2023/10/as-some-carmakers-run-from-apple-carplay-porsche-embraces-it
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OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Hegar@kbin.social 1 year ago
If it doesn’t offer Apple CarPlay, I won’t even bother
Can I ask why, what's the benefit?
beefcat@lemmy.world 1 year ago
CarPlay (and Android Auto) are basically driving-oriented UIs that your phone pushes to the head unit in your car. This means you get a full touch screen UI with your maps and music apps of choice, plus other apps that support it.
It beats mounting your phone over an AC vent because the screen is bigger and the UI is actually designed to be safe to use while driving (fewer, bigger buttons, more use of screen edges and corners so critical functions can be activated without looking).
Car makers don’t like this, because it means users are less likely to pay subscription fees for their shitty built in services.
youRFate@feddit.de 1 year ago
You can use all the apps you are familiar with and have already set up. Like you favourite maps software, your music subscription like Apple Music or Spotify, or things like podcast or audiobook apps, everything right on the big screen of the car.
OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yes. I don’t like to look at or touch my phone while I’m driving. Its dangerous. CarPlay makes it safer and easier to control my phone - from which I play my music and do my navigation. My current car has Bluetooth, so the music works, but I still have to use my phone to control it. Which as I said, I don’t like to do.
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Main reason is that many apps have a separate CarPlay or Android Auto UI that is less distracting, more glanceable, etc.
It’s kind of hard to go back once you’ve lived with it for a a bit. It’s much more convenient. A simple phone mount feels kind of janky and distracting afterwords.
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
Personally I tried Android Auto it with a company car (nothing fancy).
Couldn’t care less. Give me bluetooth and a USB port to plugin my smartphone and I will bring my phone holder.
No need for stuff that will get outdated and needs dealer updates (if they are even supplied).Die4Ever@programming.dev 1 year ago
will get outdated and needs dealer updates
I thought Android Auto and Apple CarPlay both handle updates on the phone side, not the car side?
beefcat@lemmy.world 1 year ago
No need for stuff that will get outdated and needs dealer updates (if they are even supplied).
This is specifically why people like CarPlay and Android Auto; they are managed by your phone instead of the car manufacturer. If you bought one of the first CarPlay capable cars in 2014, it still works with the new CarPlay features that just shipped in iOS 17 last week.
SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
Or you can get it installed from bestbuy. It cost me $300 last time, installation was free.
QuinceDaPence@kbin.social 1 year ago
If you're talking about a head unit replacement that get's difficuld nowadays since they aren't just Double-DIN and there are vehicle.settings managed in there.
YeezyUmplebutter@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
I would much rather a car manufacturer focus on making sure the hardware is nice to use rather than coming out with some Ass-software that they came up with in house. Also, I’m going to connect my phone to the radio anyways so why reinvent software to make it less compatible then the native software my phone manufacturer has already R&D pretty well. I assume there some licensing bullshit with either CarPlay or Android auto that could be playing a factor. But I would still rather the manufacture focus on a nice feeling, high refresh rate, bright display rather than focus on some new clunky interface they develop.
goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org 1 year ago
@fry I love CarPlay, but my Leaf can also control climate without leaving CarPlay with the use of actual physical buttons.
Best of both worlds.
youRFate@feddit.de 1 year ago
Same on my Kia ev6. It has a smaller display with 2 physical twist knobs under the the main screen. That can be used for climate or media control, independent of the main screen.
fry@fry.gs 1 year ago
That’s awesome! I think there’s a newer generation of CarPlay from Apple that lets the auto-makers use the Apple UI for everything, including the spedometers, climate and other gauges. If that data can be integrated into third party apps, I think developers would come up with some really cool things.
I really wish my Hyundai would let me do that, maybe I should look into Nissan for my next car haha. How have you been finding the Leaf? I’ve only heard good things about it from others.
goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org 1 year ago
Uprise42@artemis.camp 1 year ago
I would not recommend a leaf. I had a ton of fun with that car, and it was a great intro to EV car. But it’s short range and the fact that it’s a discontinued model are a turn off for me though. If you like Nissan the Ariya is a good choice I hear though
Car@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
I’m not in love with the idea of CarPlay/Android Auto sucking up all of our personal information, but removing the mere choice of using them doesn’t make me happy.
Car infotainment is traditionally crap when it’s new and systems which update seemingly get slower and generally worse over time. Casting your phone interface let’s you escape the first world problem of shitty UI/UX.
Zerlyna@lemmy.world 1 year ago
We already give our info to either Apple or Android. Using the car’s software is yet another company getting your info.
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 1 year ago
IMHO, car manufacturers suck at data privacy. At least Apple tells people what is being tracked, what the data is used for, and gives people prominent opt outs. And now Google is starting to get into that game.
wagesj45@kbin.social 1 year ago
When I was purchasing my car about 6 years ago I was sure I was going to for for a Nissan, as I currently had one that I loved. But they didn't offer any cars with Android Auto support and that was a deal breaker. It is a make or break thing for me, and I suspect as more and more people adopt it, it will be for them too. We might see this kind of pressure delayed, as car purchases don't happen every year for most people, and the CarPlay/Android Auto software has really only become quality must-have software within the past few years. Yet, as people approach the time to purchase a new car, I believe the pressure on automakers to integrate these technologies will intensify.
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Most automakers are on board now. Too many people were test driving cars and passing up cars without CP/AA. The big exception being Telsa. All of the other features interesting features in a Tesla made people ignore the fact that Tesla has trash voice control and limited 3rd party apps compared to iOS and Android.
GM thinks they can reverse course and play Tesla’s game.
wagesj45@kbin.social 1 year ago
If GM thinks they have the rizz that Tesla has/had they are absolutely insane.
SpeedLimit55@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Nissan was definitely late with AA/Carplay then initially just put it in the highest trim levels. They have been a few years behind everyone else with in dash entertainment for a while now.
Carter@feddit.uk 1 year ago
I’d rather cars go back to no touchscreen. Dot matrix displays are fine.
BombOmOm@lemmy.world 1 year ago
As long as absolutely everything one will press while driving is a physical button, I’m OK with it. However, putting climate control etc on the touch screen is downright dangerous as they require one to take their eyes off the road.
snooggums@kbin.social 1 year ago
Physical controls I could feel for climate was an absolute must for me as well.
Some cars have physical buttons that are so smooth you can't even tell what is what without looking at them. I guess they cold work with gloves in the cold, but it was too little for me.
autotldr@lemmings.world [bot] 1 year ago
This is the best summary I could come up with:
This has not sat well with every automaker; in March of this year, General Motors made headlines—and generated a lot of comments—when it announced it was killing off support for casting interfaces (both CarPlay and Android Auto) from its future products.
This little-known feature is only offered to OEMs and allows them freedom beyond the restrictive user interface guidelines laid down by Apple.
The app presents a series of tiles on the screen, configurable by the user, which allow you to change the climate settings, switch between favorited radio stations (AM, FM, and Sirius XM), or change the interior lighting.
The My Porsche App also integrates with Apple Maps and allows you to create favorite locations or local searches (for a coffee shop, for instance).
Although the freedom of the Automaker toolkit would have allowed Porsche to make the app look just like its native infotainment system, it didn’t.
And again, the goal for us is that customers, when they’re not in the car, they are using the iPhone, iPad, MacOS, Apple Watch, they are very familiar with this UX, UI.
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kirklennon@kbin.social 1 year ago
"Some carmakers" is a strange way to write General Motors, which is to my knowledge the sole carmaker who has announced they're going to shoot themselves in the foot by dropping a non-negotiable feature required by a majority of new car buyers. I predict they backtrack on this plan pretty rapidly.
beefcat@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Tesla also refuses to support CarPlay and Android Auto.
Because why do that when you can sell people a monthly subscription to a shittier version?
sky@codesink.io 1 year ago
Their software is actually good though, unlike anything GM has produced so far.
Terevos@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I do wish Tesla had Android Auto, but their software is really quite good.
Mostly I just want different music apps like Plex and Newpipe.
The nav stuff is mostly fine. SMS integration is good. Video apps while parked is good.
ChefTyler1980@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Volvo did this a few years ago and they’re now reversing course.
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 1 year ago
GM is the biggest, but also Telsa and Rivian. Almost all the big players support it now.